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i can't even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they're not quiet now once they get called out

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

However you cut it it’s one parent or two. One parent is always better than two.

I thought you were joking but from the pattern of your other comments I see you actually beleive this. How about a third option, when someone threatens to kill your parents, you kill them instead of making a deal with them on who they murder? Did you even think about that possibility?

Seems like you choose to put yourself in a trolley problem, rather than life actually putting you in one.

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There was no third option. If you missed it this was an analogy for the election.

[–] neobunch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You are correct that it was an analogy for the election, but the point the analogy is trying to illustrate is precisely that if you actually and for real were faced with this situation and decision (assuming you love your parents, if not please substitute for the 2 living beings you love the most), that you would reject the decision and take any number of alternative actions that are available to you before allowing a loved one to be killed. Hell, a bunch of people would fight to the death in a situation like this.

The previous realization would then illustrate the hypocrisy behind expecting people to behave in a strictly utilitarian sense when you yourself would not when it involves your loved ones.

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Except there were literally only two outcomes in the election. There were literally no alternative outcomes.

This was completely bound and a gun to your head. Absolutely no other possible outcome. Choose one option or both die anyway.

America chose both dying anyway.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I know you see it as saving a parent, because for whatever contrived reason you cant save both, but letting one of your parents die instead of fighting for whats right is actually a pretty decent metaphor for voting for Harris.

Where your metaphor falls apart though is that Harris could have chosen to break with bad policies and forge her own way forward on the genocide and the economy, and she just didnt bother. No one ever had to die, and she didnt need to lose. All she had to do was try to do the right thing and be worthy of the office, and she didnt do that. So here we all are.

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's literally the analogy put forward by someone else that I was responding to.

Moving the goal posts and changing the question to invalidate my answer is pointless.

However you look at it she was better than trump. You've cut off your nose to spite your face and indeed here we all are.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You’ve cut off your nose to spite your face and indeed here we all are.

Except its not a game of winning the popular vote is it. And I'm in a bright blue state, so my vote basically didnt matter at all. It was a contest of winning the swing states.

And was it the voters who owned the campaign choices or was it harris? There should be accountability for making campaign choices. Are you claiming Harris had no choices in how she ran her campaign?

Seems to me your are using abuser logic.