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Swedish authorities say they have detected a Chinese ship moving near two telecoms cables that failed within hours of each other on the Baltic Sea bed in recent days.

Prosecutors in Stockholm have launched a preliminary investigation into suspected sabotage, hours after Germany dubbed the cable failure part of a “hybrid operation”.

On Sunday morning at about 10am, Swedish authorities registered problems with a data cable under the Baltic Sea from the Öland island to Lithuania. At 4am on Monday, telecoms operators in Finland and Germany reported problems with another cable called C-Lion-1.

Both cables were damaged in the Swedish economic zone, prompting prosecutors in Stockholm to take the investigation lead.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lemmy.ml users incoming to tell me how that's actually the EU's fault

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

EU dresses up so slutty I just had to act.

They should hold that boat indefinitely and close the gap in Kattegat for all Russian vessels.

[–] intelisense@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And Chinese, NorK (are there any?) vessels

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

They seem to have a decent fleet of fishing vessels, but all their foreign trade on water seems to be with China, via The Yellow Sea

[–] ashley0_0@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

ever since i started using lemmy all I've heard is bad things about that instance so I don't understand why we don't just defederate from them? This is a genuine question to anyone with the answer, thanks!

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I started there. It's tiring when every international political discussion boils done to China/Russia good because NATO bad. .ml is subtle about it and does a lot of word game shit you see in right wing media. They maintain enough plausible deniability to remain federated. The defederate instances were the one using slurs.

[–] 0x815@feddit.org 4 points 20 hours ago

Yes, they are more subtle in parroting propaganda, but they block everyone who is only slightly critical of China/Russia. They are the same people.

[–] 0x815@feddit.org 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

@ashley0_0@lemmy.blahaj.zone This puzzles me, too. That instance is a cheap propaganda instance that has been banned by Reddit some time ago for a good reason. I don't know why we don't defederate.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org -2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's the instance admined by the authors of Lemmy itself. The official forum is !lemmy@lemmy.ml. It's a bit disingenuous to ask to defederate from them, unless we want the already tense relationship with the authors of the software to break entirely.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Well Lemmy is open source, isn't it? So someone could just make a fork of it, can't they?

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Of course they could but that's not free. Forked projects are a lot of work. Maybe it would be easier to go for a different software, such as kbin. Or maybe the defederation goes over just fine and arrangements are found easily. I don't know. My point is there's a social component to defederating that's likely a bit bigger than just shutting out Russia/China enjoyers.

[–] 0x815@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

My point is there’s a social component to defederating that’s likely a bit bigger than just shutting out Russia/China enjoyers.

I have to disagree. It's not just this community's "West bad, Russia/China bad okay" hypocrisy and the fact that they convey their narrative and their narrative only (everything else gets immediately blocked, while they accuse others literally of 'double standards'). One of my main points is that they support Russia's war in Ukraine, which is a genocide. It's the only community that openly supports an attempted genocide.

[Edit typo.]

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago

I feel used to the internet being full of stupid nonsense, so I just ignore .ml's share, and in a way it's a refreshing balance to the usual genre from e.g. .world and Reddit. Usually it's either run-of-the-mill echo chamber or respectful discussion.

But there's lots of good stuff on .ml too. I'm glad to still be federated.

[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It’s just a ridiculous trope, a preemptive threat against posting a non-mainstream stance.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Wasn't .ml the second largest instance at one point?