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[–] madeinthebackseat@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Provide testing for logic, critical thinking, and empathy in order to vote?

Stop making excuses for stupid people that hold back the progress of mankind?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Why put it all on the stupid people? It’s at least as much a problem with people not being accountable for their words, the death of objective and traditional media, the loss of distinction between news and opinion.

The problem with Trump being elected is not just the stupid people who thought that was a good idea but the things he can get away with saying, lack of trusted reporting or fact checking.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, I'm not trying to make excuses. Though I can appreciate that it looks like that.

But how do we restrict the stupid people? If we agree that every human gets to take part, then it follows that the stupid will be voting.

I don't think a litmus test is the answer, since they are extremely easy to misuse. Why not say only landowners should vote? How about only veterans? It's a dangerous path.

[–] VoilaChihuahua@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a dangerous path, but does that mean we shouldn't consider it? Like when you vote you have to correctly identify your candidate's policies. Or you have to answer some moral question like "rich people are rich because they are in some way inherently better". Or if you vote anti choice you're informed "selecting this candidate waives all natal care that may end your fetus' life including termination of an unviable fetus to save your life, sign your name if you waive your medical rights" if they refuse to sign - your vote don't count. But a lot of folks are too dumb to get a say in this shit right now. I think the dumbing down of America is 100% orchestrated and intentional, but we need to fix our dumbness for a few generations and get a good level set of "not being a fucking dipshit" before we can trust the random person on the street has more common sense than a bag of mismatched socks.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Or if you vote anti choice you're informed "selecting this candidate waives all natal care that may end your fetus' life including termination of an unviable fetus to save your life, sign your name if you waive your medical rights" if they refuse to sign - your vote don't count.

Even then, that may not work, since people are inclined to think "that's basically an impossibility, or would only happen if you're under the influence, or old, it could never happen to me".

I should be surprised if Farmer expected that she would need abortion care when she voted against it. She likely only realised she would when she found out her pregnancy was non-viable, and tried to get abortion care

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

I guess instead of reading a few books, we'll all just have to make the same mistakes that we've already made, again, in order to learn anything... Yeah sure, dude, let's start making people take tests before they can vote. What could go wrong?

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

then who determines what is logical or empathetic ? i hope ur joking...

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but we can all, even the stupid, agree on a few things, surely?

[–] shiftymccool@programming.dev 2 points 23 hours ago

Gather a handful of random people from your neighborhood and try to decide where to go for lunch. Now, make it several hundred million people from everywhere and have them come up with the definition of "stupid".