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Are anyone else's texts getting delayed after the RCS switch? (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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My (non-tech savvy) friend and I have been having a weird issue where random texts show up like 2 days later. My phone is up-to-date and new and his might never have installed a system update for all I know. (I don’t let him connect to my main WiFi network for a reason.)

I don’t seem to be having this issue with anyone else. I’m on iOS and he’s on Android but a relatively modern Samsung phone. Should I sit him down and update his phone or something or is this a known issue?

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Apple is doing insane stuff with iMessage making SMS useless with Android. It is intentional manipulation. I've only seen it on some Apple kernels with the latest iPhone. My old man's phone absolutely will not send or receive an SMS unless I message is manually turned off and then it won't get iMessages. Apple has always been a shitty company, but this is next level insane. Just get and use the Signal app and ditch all the proprietary garbage and manipulative bs IMO.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

SMS, iMessage and now RCS have been working well for me and I've been (primarily) using iPhones for the past 8 years now.

The Messages app shows what type of message (iMessage/SMS/RCS) you're about to send in the text field and displays which (sent or received) messages are what as well.

One thing I could see going wrong is that a given phone number is registered with iMessage and it hasn't been disabled after switching to an Android phone for example.

Another (imo more likely) thing is that if it's using RCS, some carriers don't seem to work too well with it as of now. iOS seems to have implemented the base standard, while Google added proprietary extensions to said "standard" in Android, like end-to-end encryption. I never had issues sending or receiving RCS messages from/to Android devices, but there might be some hiccups for some people as RCS - even though it's called a "standard" - isn't really standardized.

Not sure what's so insane from Apple's side about any of that.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Not sure of the exact issue but the best answer from Apple so far is that the issue is kernel related. I've tried every setting I can find and no luck. It could also be related to actual dual sim use. It could be carrier related, but it is less likely Android as I use Graphene OS.

[–] SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 4 days ago

Doesn't even have to be Apple, the wife and I are on different carriers and I saw the same shenanigans happening.

Signal app or Threema or really any other independent messaging app (except whatsapp, strangely) solved the issue.

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

You sound insane. I’ve been using RCS with no issues from my iPhone. Of course you need to update your iPhone to the new iOS version to get the new features, what did you expect?