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Japan’s English proficiency ranking dropped to 92nd out of 116 countries, the lowest ever recorded.

The decline is attributed to stagnant English proficiency among young people, particularly due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

The Netherlands ranked first, followed by European countries, while the Philippines and Malaysia ranked 22nd and 26th, respectively.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

(and it really is based on syllables, not mora)

It's not though? Pitch can and does change (either rise or drop) mid-syllable no?

[–] loppy@fedia.io 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Pitch does, but accent placement counts mora but only assigns to syllables. For example, if an accent pattern will put an accent mid-syllable, the accent will move further back to the beginning of the syllable. This is also why accents only occur on the first mora of a long vowel. You can also see this in action in accent placement for compound nouns.

Another good thing to know is that adjacent vowels within the same morpheme (typically one kanji) are part of the same syllable. So 帰る is an accented verb, so the accent goes one mora back from the end like with all accented verbs. But this would put the accent on the え in かえる, and かえ is one syllable here, so in fact the か gets the accent.

Edit: I was looking over my main source[*] for this, and was reminded of one really good example of the role of syllables in accent assignment: genitive の. Nouns can lose their accent if followed by の, and when this occurs is exactly when (1) the noun is at least bisyllabic, and (2) the noun's accent is on the final syllable. Thus monosyllabic 本 (ほ\ん) stays accented ほ\んの, but bisyllabic 日本 (にほ\ん) becomes unaccented にほんの, and 男 (おとこ\) becomes unaccented おとこの.

[*] The Handbook of Japanese Linguistics (1999), edited by Natsuko Tsujimura, published by Blackwell Publishers, Ltd.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

TIL. I apparently picked it up naturally but I feel for people who have to actually learn this.

[–] loppy@fedia.io 1 points 2 hours ago

Uhhh... ok dude. I really doubt anyone "has to" learn this, as long as they learn to hear pitch accent I'm sure anyone can pick it up "naturally". I spend my time learning this sort of stuff because it's cool and interesting.