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Giving money to Amazon, Wal-Mart, Microsoft, Google .etc

It's like, you can't have an argument for price gouging, when you're enabling them by spending. If people were smart, they'd stop giving them money 10 - 15 years ago and they'd be right now, trying to reconstruct so they can be more economically friendly than how they are now.

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[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm doing better now, but 15 years ago Walmart was the only option I had for food. Local/regional grocery stores were more expensive and I was living paycheck to paycheck with growing debt.

"If people were smart they would stop buying the most cost-efficient option" is really not feasible.

"If people were smart" they would read and stop putting oligarchs in power.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

β€œIf people were smart they would stop buying the most cost-efficient option” is really not feasible.

In fact, more and more people don't have the luxury of buying more expensive options.

Of course, stealing is an option, and I think 'If people were smart' they would accept that stealing from Walmart is not an ethical or pragmatic problem, but it's a risky behavior so I wouldn't criticize people for not stealing. [edit: see Fubarberry's reply]

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Stealing from walmart also isn't sustainable if many people are doing it. For example there were a ton of walmarts and other stores in the Chicago area that recently closed due to high theft at those locations. Now whole communities there are left without convenient shopping options, which can be a big problem for people with limited transportation options.

[–] Didros@beehaw.org 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That Walmart CLAIMED were closed for high theft.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

You can look up videos of some of the stores that were closed, they were basically being straight up looted.

I remember seeing the videos, and thinking to myself how I didn't understand how they could afford to stay in business like that. So when they announced they were closing those stores for theft, I didn't really think the given reason was ever in doubt.

[–] Didros@beehaw.org 7 points 1 day ago

"β€œThe decision to close a store is never easy,” company officials said in a statement. β€œThe simplest explanation is that collectively our Chicago stores have not been profitable since we opened the first one nearly 17 years ago.”

The stores lose tens of millions of dollars a year, according to the company, a figure that nearly doubled in the last five years despite numerous strategies to boost performance, including building smaller stores, offering local products and building a Walmart Academy training center."

https://news.wttw.com/2023/04/12/walmart-closing-4-chicago-stores-company-says-losses-have-doubled-last-5-years

Doesn't sound like theft was ever the problem here according to them?

[–] mke_geek@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stealing isn't right.

The Walmart near me closed due to high theft. There were actually people stealing from the construction site when the store was being built, so it really was a ticking clock as to how long the store itself would even last.

Some people are just awful.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

Stealing isn’t right.

I conditionally disagree. In fact, there are many real situations where stealing is the right option. There are valid reasons why folk lore glorifies figures like Robin Hood. And when it comes to international conglomerates like Walmart, which hoard astronomical wealth while others who can't afford bread starve nearby, theft of the hoard is justice in its most appropriate form (if one values human survival more than legal property rights).

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good point. If there aren't other local stores remaining to fill the gaps, then that would be a critical problem.

[–] SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Walmart, Kroger, etc.'s entire business model is to undercut other local stores to drive them out and become local monopolies. If they exist in a location there likely aren't many, if any, local stores remaining...

[–] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 day ago

But you'll notice that the price comparison is narrowing and Wal-Mart is slowly not looking better off than the competition. It's almost like shopping at Dollar Tree is more feasible, it's what some of us are going to be forced to be doing if not now. Just shopping Dollar Tree almost regularly.