I understand that it's self defense, but does it feel weird to anyone else how comfortable a kid is with killing another person?? He doesn't seem to have much remorse.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I got no proof other than my personal experiences growing up and observing kids while teaching them in groups at a school.

Children by in large seem to have little empathy for others. Children have little to no problem with bullying others without any emotional issues. Even to the point of pushing other kids to suicide. They have little regard for others and even less control over maturity.

I think empathy is something that you develop as you grow older. It's more a mark of adulthood than childhood.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know about that. I think a lot of kids feel empathy from a young age, and bullying behaviors are rather caused by a harsh environment and how they are treated by other people, especially parents.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

I'm not so sure. Children have a lot of desire and drive to monopolize an adult's attention and resources. This I think gives any one child a leg up on getting the best resources to survive better. And you can see it when you work with a group of children. They will group around you jostling for the best position to be first and get the best from you. They do of course, get better with age and as they learn patience, but there is still a lack of empathy to be found in their base behavior.

After all, if you grew up with siblings, I'm quite sure your parents at some point in your early childhood told you "Be nice to your siblings! You love them!" more than once. Or some variation on that theme. And if you are a parent yourself, you have used that phrase at some point also. Because who has better reason to want to "kill" each other than brothers and sisters? They want to get as much of mommy and daddy as possible. Those resources are scarce and your natural drive is to fight to get them.

And hopefully, as children age they learn to get and show empathy to those around them. Most do, but some never quite manage it.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Sadly, this is very similar of my wife's understanding of teaching kids from 11-18. Emotional intelligence is very different from standard intelligence, and it develops at different times for different people.

Sometimes it's a pure lack of empathy, and other times it's simply not being able to understand that people have their own shit they're dealing with. It can be simple stuff like bullying someone going through a rough time at home/school, or showing zero remorse when a kid they've assaulted goes blind due to brain damage because "the kid was a fucking dweeb". Some of the stories I've heard second-hand are absolutely fucking tragic, even in good schools.

[–] disgrunty@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

The guy was shot in the leg. It doesn't say in any of the news coverage that he died.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

He didn't kill the intruder.

[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is it not possible that this photo was taken prior to the incident, and that the kid was bothered by the whole situation? I have a hard time taking the "little baby" comment too seriously. People act in very unusual ways when overdosing on adrenaline.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 22 hours ago

Fair point. I can see myself using some comment like that to cope if I were in that situation.

[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

There is a news logo on the bottom. This is likely a still from an interview about the incident

[–] Photon@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

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