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[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Most of this thread falls into two categories of people -

Shooting someone, under any condition, and not pouring you heart out for the person = psychopath

People who do illegal things are not actually people, please more authoritarianism

It is pretty obvious that almost no one, commenting here, has been in a situation where your life is truly being threatened, after your safety has been violated, and people who do not understand the how, and why, of criminal behavior. Yet they are all making very self-assured, absolutely black and white logic, statements as if they are the herald of truth.

[–] bradd@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

To add to this comment...

People turn into animals under pressure and they cope with stress in unusual or seemingly unreasonable ways.

Taunting someone that you view as a threat to your safety may be a coping mechanism that serves to calm your own nerves, by making light of the situation and maintaining a sense of dominance over the aggressor.

It seems cold but in a life threatening situation there isn't much room for thoughtful compassion, you have to do what you have to do to survive and there is no way to know what's coming next. Even if things seem to have deescalated, it doesn't end for a very very long time, thats what PTSD is all about.

Now, people who are engaging in illegal activity are people. I've been held at gun point, I've been shot at, and robbed. As much as I think these people deserve to go to jail I also hope that they eventually learn that what they did was wrong and want forgiveness. I would forgive them. All people are victims whether they know it or not, in various capacities.

The people that shot at me, probably had a harder life growing up and this is them fighting for a better life, as fucked up as it is, and as wrong as I think they are... Now, even with all of that said if I had a gun when this happened and I could get some good shots in, I might be talking some shit and I dont see that those two things conflict. I can be understanding of their situation, feel for them and feel bad for having to shoot them but also be taunting them at the same time. When I was robbed I jokingly told them to calm down as I was popping the register, they were pointing the pistol point blank at my face as I was being slightly dismissive of them, partially because thats who I am and also, Im sure, as a way to release tension.

[–] disgrunty@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's also the fact that the intruder was shot in the leg and didn't die.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, and the kid is 11, instead of thinking "man, a full grown man broke into an 11 year old's house, then threatened his life, and he shot the guy while running away, and then said mean things to him, he must have been in the middle of a big mind fuck, one that adults have issues dealing with, at 11, and isn't acting normally, and this will have effects down the line we can't foresee" many are like "I know exactly how people should behave to this specific childhood trauma, and this child is definitely a psychopath".

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

"Confidently incorrect"

[–] bobgray123987@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 21 hours ago

After visiting some crime scenes etc ... I know there is a human factor to both sides ... Victim, criminal etc. But I just do not feel that much sympathy towards the criminal anymore. They had a choice. This time they chose poorly. Breaking into a house in any of the red states is Russian roulette. This time he just chose the loaded cylinder.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I understand that it's self defense, but does it feel weird to anyone else how comfortable a kid is with killing another person?? He doesn't seem to have much remorse.

[–] disgrunty@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The guy was shot in the leg. It doesn't say in any of the news coverage that he died.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I got no proof other than my personal experiences growing up and observing kids while teaching them in groups at a school.

Children by in large seem to have little empathy for others. Children have little to no problem with bullying others without any emotional issues. Even to the point of pushing other kids to suicide. They have little regard for others and even less control over maturity.

I think empathy is something that you develop as you grow older. It's more a mark of adulthood than childhood.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't know about that. I think a lot of kids feel empathy from a young age, and bullying behaviors are rather caused by a harsh environment and how they are treated by other people, especially parents.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Sadly, this is very similar of my wife's understanding of teaching kids from 11-18. Emotional intelligence is very different from standard intelligence, and it develops at different times for different people.

Sometimes it's a pure lack of empathy, and other times it's simply not being able to understand that people have their own shit they're dealing with. It can be simple stuff like bullying someone going through a rough time at home/school, or showing zero remorse when a kid they've assaulted goes blind due to brain damage because "the kid was a fucking dweeb". Some of the stories I've heard second-hand are absolutely fucking tragic, even in good schools.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

He didn't kill the intruder.

[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is it not possible that this photo was taken prior to the incident, and that the kid was bothered by the whole situation? I have a hard time taking the "little baby" comment too seriously. People act in very unusual ways when overdosing on adrenaline.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

Fair point. I can see myself using some comment like that to cope if I were in that situation.

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[–] disgrunty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

So many dumbasses who think Professor Barclay is being serious. It's a joke. The guy did not die. It's dark humor.

[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I mean good but is no one worried about the kid not having any issues with taking someone's life? Maybe I'm missing out on some extra pieces of info, but it is a bit concerning even if it is an intruder.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

He didn't actually kill the intruder so that's something he can probably look forward to either after joining the military or law enforcement.

But joking aside, children by in large, don't seem to have much empathy about such things. You can see this in the bullying they do in schools and on the playgrounds. And it doesn't seem to bother them much.

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[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you break into a home you get what you deserve and that includes insults and\or deletion.

[–] disgrunty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In this case, a bullet to the leg which he survived.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I used to be a burglar like him, until I took a bullet to the knee

[–] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

apparently lemmitors hate themselves so much that self defense is incomprehensible to them

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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 104 points 2 days ago (65 children)

What a psychopath. Anyone wanna bet he becomes a cop?

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[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 70 points 2 days ago (10 children)

How about don’t break into someone’s house?

[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Agreed, you break the law you forfeit your life.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 106 points 2 days ago (29 children)

And ruin every American gun owner's wet dream?

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