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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 186 points 2 years ago

An entire industry built on taking money they didn't earn to deny the care our doctors prescribe for us... Are we stupid??

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 104 points 2 years ago

I mean, the electorate keeps voting for people who won't pass health care reform so.. Yes?

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 34 points 2 years ago

worse, we vote for healthcare reforms that would take us back to when no one poor got any care at all. we elected our own killers

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Those people are the only options on the ballot though. We can't vote for something that's not an option

[-] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago

The fuck are you talking about? First of all, primaries exist. Secondly, with only a few notable exceptions, Democrats favor single-payer. The original ACA was a government healthcare bill with a private option but Joe Lieberman was the holdout and gutted it. Stating otherwise is intellectually dishonest and deliberately ignorant, or at worst a malicious rewrite of history.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

In the last primary who was calling for a switch to a single payer healthcare system? None of the candidates were talking about that.

Joe Liberman left office in 2013. That was 11 years ago.

What the fuck are you talking about about?

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I’m pretty sure they meant Joe Manchin.

The star if the rotating villian game.

[-] leadore@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It was a private system with a public option, but 6 of 1, half a dozen of the other I guess.

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

We had that option in 2016 but nobody votes in the fucking primaries.

And the party did everything they could to screw him over.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

Not only that , but voting for the people who are promising to make it even worse.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Propaganda told them to.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 26 points 2 years ago

Are we stupid??

Yup.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

It's not stupidity, because over 99% of us didn't have a choice. It's greed. Greedy little piggy leaders of major systems designed to fuck over everyone but them.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

My default response to this is what was voter turnout for the last election? People are fond of referring to the 4 boxes: soap, ballot, jury, and cartridge, but they don't bother with the second.

[-] ochi_chernye@startrek.website -1 points 2 years ago

I've literally never heard a single person refer to these 4 boxes, so I must take issue with your assertion that people are fond of doing it. You're also seemingly discounting innumerable factors, like the hundreds of billions of dollars spent on distracting and deceiving people into both voting against their best interests, and not voting at all.

In short, your default response is a reductive and unhelpful platitude. Not trying to be a jerk (it just comes naturally). Best of luck.

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