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Big Oil Is Urging Trump Not to Pull Out of the Paris Accord | In short: reputation and profits. (insideclimatenews.org)
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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's hard to make profit when you and your customers are dead. I think awareness of the reality of the problem has started to seep into the business community.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Aren't these the same people who just helped get Trump elected? Biden actually gave the oil industry a stable environment in which to operate. Granted, in the long run, they would've had to find a new business model or sell a larger share of their oil outside the US.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think the game they're playing is "You better give me what I want, or I'll sink the whole boat by supporting your opponent. You care more than I do whether the country lives or dies, so it's a credible threat." Wall Street does the same thing whenever a politician shows a whiff of regulating them.

It is, interestingly enough, the exact same game that the people are playing who refuse to support Democrats because of Gaza. The Palestinian cause is a hell of a lot more noble and real, but the calculus is the same. "I'll burn the world if you don't do what I demand."

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago

As a gaza boat sinker last cycle let me help you rephrase: 'stop killing people for business profits and promote policies that help the common good or ill gladly watch our country burn'