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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world -5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Although i was already leaning this way but Geriatric Nancy Pelosi pushing the vote against AOC from the hospital from her broken hip made me decide I won't be voting Democrat in the national elections any time soon.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

No - that’s the wrong response. You’ve got to be tactical. You can’t ignore the constraints of the system if you’re going to participate in the system. Doing so is a recipe for failure.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. I'll vote for the kind of politician I want in the primary, and vote tactically for the one who is closest to my views, but who stands something of a chance of winning in the general.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

It's a good thing that primaries are fair and exist consistently.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

I kinda stopped caring, been voting tactically the last three elections and still got orange mussolini and an our incumbent senator got beat by an out of state republican. And the democratic party is not adjusting, instead its doubling down. Why should I reward this kind of behavior. Local elections and state elections I'll still keep supporting who I think is best

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Why should I reward this kind of behavior.

That's not how it works -you "reward" the behavior of candidates who vote the way you want and if there are none, you vote for the least damaging while encouraging those who do vote the way you want to run.

It's not a boycott. If the party (any party, not just DNC) is broken - fix the party. The DNC has been broken for longer than not, but if you can think of anything good that's happened in government, it's almost always because of Democrats. That doesn't happen by non-involvement, that's not the fix.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

That’s not how it works -you “reward” the behavior of candidates who vote the way you want

Easy for you to say. You have candidates who vote the way you want.

If the party (any party, not just DNC) is broken - fix the party.

By what mechanism? If the party loses nothing when it ignores its constituents, there's no leverage.

That doesn’t happen by non-involvement, that’s not the fix.

Involvement hasn't worked either. But now you get to blame the party acting like you want it to on people who are upset that it doesn't work for them. It's simple, if the party doesn't work for you, it's because you're not involved enough! So really it's your fault that the party is run by corrupt pro-genocide geriatrics who render primaries meaningless. Lazy millennials.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

FWIW, I too share that deep sense of ennui. It’s genuinely hard not to feel that way at this point.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

As opposed to the resounding success that we just saw.