A long gun is not good for home defense. A pistol is much better in CQC. Also a shotgun does require much less aiming in a high stress situation. You're just being silly.

A 16" barrel AR is going to be much easier for someone with very little experience in CQC using than a damn shotgun or a handgun. They're not fucking marines...

Also birdshot is not a slug.

Never said it was. Literally said it's basically a slug at 10' in a home. Shit is not fanning out to a huge wall of pellets like the comment basically says.

Those are literally two different things. That's two different kinds of ammo, what are you talking about. A slug has way more mass, which is a hug factor in penetration. Wtf is this nonsense.

Please re-read what I said...no where did I state it was a slug.

Source: bored out of my mind in the UMSC stained at 29 Palms and did Mohave Viper combat training stuff a ton. Try to clear a tight building with an AR and you realize how easy it is to just grab a barrel as you try to clear a room.

Cool, no one is fucking clearing their damn homes like they're in Iraq...

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yes, they're not Marines, meaning it's even easier for someone to just grab the gun around the corner and make it useless. If you get into a scuffle a hand gun is going to still be able to be used.

Never said it was. Literally said it's basically a slug at 10' in a home.

I mean sure, if you don't care about what's outside or neighbors. There's a big difference on penetration there.

Cool, no one is fucking clearing their damn homes like they're in Iraq...

Exactly my point. Clearing a house effectively with a long gun is much harder than a hand gun. You have to be aware of blind corners and peaks where the barrel can be grabbed before you even see the person. That was my point. A handgun remains effective in a melee.