Id say that's definitely one of the core issues, but also the police's core history as well. I do know that cops can do good things, but I'll still stand with the ACAB crowd all day. Even though those cops can and do good things, at their core they've joined an organization that will protect themselves and the rich at the cost of us. That is undeniable. There is something categorically wrong with the police force in the US and likely most of the world.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is kinda the problem with this reasoning though. You'd have to admit the police do more good than harm by maintaining some form of societal order and occasional brutality is only some consequence of it.

I'd prefer to live in a world with bastards that maintain order than none at all.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

That's what we're talking about though. What they're doing is not order. The police typically escalate situations that don't need to be escalated, they're prone to fear because it's how they're trained and they view us as criminals and assailants. They do not protect order for normal people, they protect order for those that have enough power and influence.

No one feels comfortable when cops are around aside from cops and the rich. You're trading false security for your rights.