This is kinda the problem with this reasoning though. You'd have to admit the police do more good than harm by maintaining some form of societal order and occasional brutality is only some consequence of it.

I'd prefer to live in a world with bastards that maintain order than none at all.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

That's what we're talking about though. What they're doing is not order. The police typically escalate situations that don't need to be escalated, they're prone to fear because it's how they're trained and they view us as criminals and assailants. They do not protect order for normal people, they protect order for those that have enough power and influence.

No one feels comfortable when cops are around aside from cops and the rich. You're trading false security for your rights.