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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wrong on 2 fronts.

  1. A modern level-4 armor plate can take multiple hits from a small-caliber round like a 5.56 or 7.62.

  2. Most mass shootings involve handguns. Per weapon It's more than 2:1 with handguns:rifles, and per incident it's almost 2:1 (discrepancy comes from when multiple handguns are used in one incident, like in Virginia Tech, which was also the deadliest school shooting in US history).

In fact, only 3 of the 10 deadliest school shootings in US history had ARs used in the attacks.

Also: just for weird trivia, the 7th deadliest "school shooting" in the "US" was in 1764, though 10 of the 11 murders were with melee weapons, and only the schoolteacher was actually shot.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Good job by the assailant getting the teacher with an 18th century weapon (you say "shooting" – gun or bow?)

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

It was a black powder gun.

Wikipedia classifies it as a school shooting because it was a mass murder at a school in which a firearm killed someone. I personally think it's a stretch, though it does demonstrate that the type of weapon isn't as important as the drive to kill innocents.

The deadliest school massacre in US history (Bath School disaster of 1927) didn't qualify for the list at all because the murderer used explosives to kill 45 people.

The scariest thing about the Bath disaster was the 500 pound of explosives that didn't go off that would have leveled the school entirely.

The guy was truly psychotic. Before burning down his farm the day of the bombings, he bound his horses' legs together to make sure even they died.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unequal president Rob Vito argued handguns and shotguns are “useless” against a product like the one the company gifted the students.

The plates themselves are thin as fuck. No way they stop anything above 9 in a meaningful manner. Also 7.62 is small...when compared to really big shit.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I don't know what the story is aboit, but my point is that modern Level 4 plates are specifically designed to stop rifle rounds.

Here is video of one plate being shot with AP 30.06 followed by 5 hits from 5.56 without enough of a bulge to even bruise. Then they shoot another plate with a 7.62x54r round powerful enough it jams the bolt on the 91/30 they're shooting it from.

The only way they actually manage to penetrate the armor is with an AP .50 BMG shooting through the 2 damaged plates from the previous tests.

https://youtu.be/D1qLZwBeMuM