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I have been spending the holidays with my fiance's family. All of them are die hard trump supporters. This town they live in, are all die hard trump supporters.

We went out to a restaurant with my fiance's parents and their friends. When it came time to pay their friends whipped out their cards and showed the table. Each card had a sticker delicately placed, the content of the stickers were of donald trump in many different contexts. Djt as a dollar bill, djt wearing a fake mustache at his mugshot, djt assasination attempt, etc. I was absolutely appalled. Then the waiter came over and I was expecting to see him perturbed as well. Nope. He wanted one and asked if they had anymore. They then gave him one and helped him put it on. In the middle of his shift.

Obviously trump is fucking disgusting in more ways than one. What baffles me is how you can flagrantly carry around a proven rapist in your wallet when you are a woman, not just a woman but a woman of color. Which the friend waving this dipshit around and making the stickers is.

I mean this man has literally talked about immigrants "poisoning the blood of this nation". These are actual fucking people he talks about and demonizes. People with families, lives, and friends. All that care just gets thrown out the window with these people.

I hate living in trump country, because I feel like I am losing my mind when everyone around me is flaunting him like their own son who graduated as validictorian. As if these people are part of his club. When he is one of the most disgusting individuals I have had the displeasure of hearing about for over 8 years going on 12 now. How can you be so ignorant? Every passing day in this state I understand more and more how Hitler gripped the minds of the masses and came into power so easily. People are so fucking stupid.

Please for my sanity, I need to talk to people who know this monster for who he truly is. How do you cope being in a similar situation? How do you speak up?

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[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

I'm sorry for your situation. It's definitely a tough place to be. My wife and I recently moved back to Canada--we were planning the move before the election, but the election results only confirmed our decision.

In terms of coping, one thing I've done is to try to remind myself that his followers are also victims, in a sense. Not that they don't bear responsibility (every person who has supported him is responsible for the growing dumpster fire that is the US), but it's like you said--Trump doesn't care about them or their interests. And despite it being tempting to think every MAGA is just stupid (which is at least partly true), there's some rationality to how they arrived there. It's mostly due to fear-based reasoning mixed with misguided patriotism and their upbringing (and probably other factors). It doesn't excuse what they're doing, but if I'm honest, I might be in the same place as them if I had experienced life in their shoes. Still wrong, but it helps me at least humanize them in my own head and it lets my anger (at them) dwindle to pity instead. I also try to remember the ways I've been ignorant in my own past. Again, not to excuse anyone, just to deal with my own emotions.

In terms of speaking up, I haven't had much luck. Most of his people are all in, and there is literally nothing that will change their mind. More often, I find that disengaging is more effective--mainly for my own sanity. If someone wants to engage, I try to remember to first ask them, "what would it take to change your mind about Trump?" When I've asked this, 95% of the time, the person responds with "nothing." Then I confirm that there's no point in having a conversation about it, because at this point, there's nothing that will change my mind about him either (due to the overwhelming evidence of his character and misdeeds). At the end of the day, our principles simply don't line up, so a conversation would be fruitless.

Not sure what your life situation is, but if you have the means to move somewhere else, that's probably the best you could do. It also sends the strongest possible message to your community, and leaves the MAGA crowd to their infighting (rember, their ideology is based on blaming people--if all the "libs" leave town, they're forced to find a new out-group and they slowly eat their own). It sucks, but there's nothing much you can do as the minority to turn your community around (aside from offering support to any like-minded people).

Here's hoping you can get out of it.