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I have been spending the holidays with my fiance's family. All of them are die hard trump supporters. This town they live in, are all die hard trump supporters.

We went out to a restaurant with my fiance's parents and their friends. When it came time to pay their friends whipped out their cards and showed the table. Each card had a sticker delicately placed, the content of the stickers were of donald trump in many different contexts. Djt as a dollar bill, djt wearing a fake mustache at his mugshot, djt assasination attempt, etc. I was absolutely appalled. Then the waiter came over and I was expecting to see him perturbed as well. Nope. He wanted one and asked if they had anymore. They then gave him one and helped him put it on. In the middle of his shift.

Obviously trump is fucking disgusting in more ways than one. What baffles me is how you can flagrantly carry around a proven rapist in your wallet when you are a woman, not just a woman but a woman of color. Which the friend waving this dipshit around and making the stickers is.

I mean this man has literally talked about immigrants "poisoning the blood of this nation". These are actual fucking people he talks about and demonizes. People with families, lives, and friends. All that care just gets thrown out the window with these people.

I hate living in trump country, because I feel like I am losing my mind when everyone around me is flaunting him like their own son who graduated as validictorian. As if these people are part of his club. When he is one of the most disgusting individuals I have had the displeasure of hearing about for over 8 years going on 12 now. How can you be so ignorant? Every passing day in this state I understand more and more how Hitler gripped the minds of the masses and came into power so easily. People are so fucking stupid.

Please for my sanity, I need to talk to people who know this monster for who he truly is. How do you cope being in a similar situation? How do you speak up?

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, to be an apologist for something you have to believe it happened. You know, people can still be wrong and horrible even if they aren't guilty of 100.0000% of everything you would like to accuse them of. Conceding one little point doesn't mean you're calling them the good guys, it just means your being realistic.

[–] ludicolo@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People who continue to remain ignorant and not look up the facts of the case, yet continue to flagrantly say "it didn't happen" are rape apologists. If you continue to support a person who has been convicted of rape, yet you stay ignorant to the details while still claiming "it didn't happen". You are a rape apologist. First and foremost the victim and their condition should be first to come to mind. Not the plausible innocence of the rapeist no matter how close you were to them ir how 'great' they are. What this is doing is invalidating the trauma of the victim. You can still be ignorant and a rape apologist. Most if not all of my maga interactions have been this way. (Anecdotal I know)

At the end of the day yes their are many things that make maga evil and Abhorrent. The quick outright dismissal of this case from them is one of the many. I'm not trying to throw titles I think are illegitimate.

Do I think all of maga believes it didn't happen? No. That would be ludicrous. A large portion probably have no idea who E Jean Caroll is. Do I think the majority of maga if presented with the case and asked if they believed it happened would say 'no'? Yes.

That is exactly how his base has been primed to react.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I don't think all of MAGA believes it didn't happen either. All I'm saying, which nobody seems to want to hear, is that people aren't memes, they're individuals. Many MAGA people genuinely believe all the accusations against Trump and all his criminal convictions are just crooked manipulations by the "Biden crime family" etc. I don't know why it's so hard to accept that being right doesn't require being 100% right about every single fucking point. Being anti-Trump is right enough without insisting that every single MAGA person is a "rape apologist". It's just not realistic, and not necessary. There's far more ignorance in the world than evil.