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[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 153 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The obvious solution for these kinds of public entities is to spin up a mastodon instance to post their own alerts and updates that the public can subscribe to. That way the city is not beholden to someone else’s platform philosophy…if only everyone could agree to one social web protocol.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 47 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Each city running its own? No, that's way too much duplication of effort. Maybe have one run by the federal government, like the .gov domain.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If it's unified under the federal government, then an asshole president can mess with it.

If it's distributed, with states and major cities having their own instances, then it's more asshole-resistant.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why would we ever elect an asshole president though?

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

America elected Andrew Jackson and we learned our lesson. /s

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People voted for him because he was a war hero and said fuck the banks. As a result, when he was elected he paid off the national debt. I don't mean he didn't run a deficit, he paid off the entire balance.

If you think Trump is comparable, just look at the deficit he left us

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, he also held degenerate parties at the WH (actually pretty cool) and committed horrible wholesale atrocities against native Americans (very not cool).

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And yet, rated as an above average president by historians. Trump is somewhere at the bottom of the pile

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Not native historians lol

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

The city government spinning up its own instance makes sense. You could then have accounts for the various departments, transit, road and highway, parks and rec, the library, the mayor’s office…

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

"Asshole resistant" sounds like marketing terms used to advertise a dildo to a community that enjoys consentual non-consent.

Like they want a dildo that doesn't go into assholes easily.

[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How about a state/province level instance for municipal affairs?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Reasonable, but I think there would be more reliability and adoption if provided by the federal government. For example, I don't really trust states like Alabama to run services like this properly.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I trust my city government a hell of a lot more than I trust the incoming federal administration.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I would trust a guy named Shank who sells fake IDs on the bus more than I trust the incoming federal administration.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

At least you know Shank is on your side. No ulterior motive working for the billionaire class. He's just as fucked by the system as you are.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Why not all of the above? Each state can run their own and smaller cities and towns can use it. If larger cities want to host their own, then they can do that instead of relying on state instance.

[–] droporain@lemmynsfw.com -4 points 1 week ago

Attention the number 12 bus destination "banging your sister" is approaching the station. Roll tide.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago

Running an instance is pretty trivial from a sysadmin standpoint, so I do lean towards smaller entities just running their own, to prevent monolithic censorship.

They can just disable comments so they don’t have to moderate anything. A county could run just a read-only instance that would have a community for every department that needed to do public communication. The road department could post about a bridge closure, the conservation district could promote a volunteer event, and so forth.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

The fed should probably have their own instance, and the states should each have theirs as well.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 1 week ago

Remember who's running DOGEfficicency

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Every city in the western world already has at least one rack of servers running 24/7. The have their own domain names, they have a web presence, etc -- running a mastodon instance on existing infrastructure hardly qualifies as wasteful.

[–] HubertManne@feddit.online 3 points 1 week ago

I could see the state having the infrastructure but like the agencies cloning the default and putting in their agency specific stuff.

[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Asshole resistant"

I love that concept.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think they realize how easy (and low risk) it can be to set up a Mastodon server. Particularly when you don't have to allow the public to create accounts.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

They do. Government orgs are just extremely slow and have a lot of stupid ass inefficiencies.

I did contracting work for a gov website that involved a revamp. It took two years for the work to get to me, one month for me to finish my first pass, and then three more years before it finally launched.

Five years.

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds great. I think it is super valuable to have an RSS feed so that people can subscribe in all sorts of ways. Having ActivityPub is also nice.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Iirc you can subscribe to any mastodon account via RSS already no?

But yes, regardless I think RSS is a must.

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, that is why I said "Sounds great".

Ahh OK. Makes sense now. I just read it wrong at first.