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[–] Robin@lemmy.world 90 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I bet Grok doesn't even have a clue about Twitter policies and is just making shit up

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly, I don't know why people haven't understood that yet, Grok is just another LLM, it doesn't know shit, it doesn't understand shit, it just regurgitates words from the data it's been trained on and it certainly isn't an insider at Shitter.

Stop asking Grok what the fuck Elon is doing

IT

DOESN'T

KNOW

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago

The point is that LLMs are naturally biased but they're also explicitly biased by the people training them. Knowing what biases are being programmed into these LLMs by their owners is a glimpse into their agenda.

If you want to read more on the subject these are referred to as "system prompts" and you can read about various "system prompt leaks" that can include such things as explicitly right wing walking points.

Grok may very well have such nuggets in its system prompt.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It should probably make stuff up that doesn't make it's boss look bad.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Grok is a laughing stock in LLM world.

  • It’s worse than Gemini, Claude, so… why use it over API?

  • It’s not open source or even open weights. Elon is straight up lying when he claims it is.

  • It’s more expensive and generally more censored than great open weights models. Its even straight up worse than the remarkable Deepseek v3.

  • It has no niche. It’s not long context, it’s slopped from training on other models, it’s not fast, it has seemingly no architectural advantages (not that they publish anything about it,) it’s not particularly good at prose or code completion or answering grounded in facts (hence the subject of the OP) or anything.

  • Elon has one of the most inefficiently used H100 hoards on the planet, while other labs are making good models without being billionaires or scorching the Earth.

  • Elon is an asshole, and I don’t want anything to do with him.

  • Even for “business use,” simply associating with X makes you radioactive.

The only ostensible reason I can think of to use Grok is ignorance, or to lick the boots of Musk/Trump. It’s not good, it’s not ‘based,’ it’s just a shitty, expensive product hyped to the moon and “better some day.” Surprise, surprise…

Anyway, the point is Elon doesn’t care if Grok makes him look bad. Reality is irrelevant, he can hype the snot out of it and have hordes come running to bow in deference.