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French operator SNCF has previously asked passengers to self-declare as 'Monsieur' or 'Madame'.

The EU's top court ruled on Thursday that requiring rail passengers to declare a gender when buying a ticket is in breach of the EU's General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).

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[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it’s the opposite of that. They stopped asking about the gender of the passengers.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Understood, and I should have been more clear. My question was, why ask in the first place?

[–] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Asking whether they write sir or madam on the ticket as a form of politeness. Sure it helps collecting statistics too.

Conservative are weird, the will be fine with asking sir or madam, but would throw a tantrum if you ask them a pronoum which is exactly the same question

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure, but is that a reason to make it mandatory? If someone does not want to share the information, then saying "non, we must be polite to you!" doesn't make a lot of sense.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 15 hours ago

Probably whoever drafted the requirements for the software team just didn't think to add a third option, and the software team didn't want to add additional requirements.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Probably a mixture of tradition/inertia and old-fashioned identification ideas.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 9 points 1 day ago

https://www.euractiv.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/01/CP250002EN.pdf

"data gathering" basically.

But their reasoning for gathering the data wasn't good enough for the court to allow it, as they basically said "it's so we know how to talk to passengers", but as the court says, they can use less gender-specific wording.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's the excuse, anyway. Only SNCF's marketing department knows if it was the real reason.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

In Europe we don't really have the toxic American gender war.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s just how it’s always been. But I guess someone decided to sue.