Side note: Does anybody have an effective way of blocking this stupid Admiral BS, I've gotten it to a point where it consistently gives me the bypass option but I'd prefer it to go away entirely
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If it's a site I use regularly, I'll disable ad blocker, especially news. It'd be childish demand people provide me their time, labour and effort for free, especially when the ads cost me nothing.
I demand control over my computing on my hardware. After I casually request media do not feel entitled to run anti-features without my permission.
I do think that hard effort to create works should be rewarded but I do believe ads have a cost - and it's too damn high.
How do you reward the work you encounter online?
I buy merchandise from video creators, do non-annual donations (1 is annual) and assume commission for affiliate links can happen in the background when I buy stuff.
I admit I mostly give back to bigger players (e.g. my OS creator), and less so to those who are just starting off that don't see as much.
I've tried that before, was I rewarded with peaceful well placed ADs? Hell no, I was inundated with full page auto-playing monstrosities so fuck that.
Maybe if it's a small time website I'll just pay with donations or a subscription, but fuck these big time conglomerate owned websites
Have you subscribed or paid for many? If so, thank you! But sadly, most of us don't.
I'm not talking big conglomerates, I'm talking about independent journalism or folks who are working to build something meaningful or beneficial to me, like webcomics or fantasy hockey.
Since people started getting news online for free, quality independent journalism has plummeted and we've been left with mostly corpo media with a few indies hanging on or getting absorbed into corpo. I think it's a tragedy which adblockers have accelerated.
I don't demand anything, but I'm not responsible for making sure anyone else makes money. Sell it, give it away, or don't. Don't beg me to allow third parties to infect my devices just because they paid you to ask me.
How do you expect the websites you use to exist if everyone ad blocks them?
Lot's of websites exist. How did they do it before invasive ads and tracking?
Back in the day, before ad blockers general unobtrusive ads generated more revenue per site visit. As ad blockers become popular, the value of those same ads were worth less.
So, to answer your question, they were able to pay the bills with discreet ads which we decided were too annoying, leading to the current spiral of decline.
I can appreciate your viewpoint, but I disagree. If I can't use my adblocker on your site, I don't need your site.
There are no acceptable ads and there haven't been for a very long time. Plus, I've been blocking ads for so long I can't even remember an internet that has them. Probably part of the reason why I refuse any kind of ads.
So why should anyone make a website for you to visit?
Donations etc haven't been particularly effective. Should only giant corpo media exist? Should online news enter into sketchy deals with whomever?
No not at all. But the ads on the internet are actively malicious. They're misleading at best and actually dangerous at worst. I refuse to support that.
I really am sorry for the smaller sites that need the ads to run. But I won't help you if the ads don't change.
So again, how should small websites exist then?
Donations and subscriptions almost never work unless you are already a well trafficked website so I'm curious what your solution is...
I don't have one. That's part of the problem. The ads system needs to be fundamentally changed. But I'm still not going to expose myself and my devices to malicious ads and malware for the sake of your small site. It's not worth the risk for me personally.
Yeah, it makes sense and I don't blame you.
IIt's one of those tragic game theory problems, like the prisonwr's dilemma, climate change or anything else where we all suffer because it's in no one's self interest to do the socially beneficial thing.
Yeah. It really is sad, but I'm not going to do something that is directly negatively impacting me just to keep up a site run by someone I don't even know.
Spicy take these days.
Yup. Everyone wants everything free but simultaneously want a high standard of wages for everyone except whomever is providing them a service.
Folks dress it up in whatever nonsensical rationale they'd like but really, I think we're just selfish.
Yeah, I tried that for a while, then those sites abused that privilege with horrid obnoxious ads so I decided to nuke any ads anywhere.
I’m certainly glad that your tolerance to ads is such that you’re willing to endure them for whatever media it is that you consume, and encourage you to disable your adblockers entirely (given that ads really don’t cost you personally anything), but as for me and mine, we will block ads with a near religious fervor.
Cheers!
Honestly, I don't use many random websites frequently, the ones I do tend to be pretty non intrusive in terms of ads (cbc, dobberhockey etc) so it might just be lucky on my part.
I dunno, I just think it's a race to the bottom. If everyone ad blocks then sites either don't exist, have to get more intrusive for the small sliver who doesn't ad block or sketchy partnerships.