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submitted 3 years ago by queue@beehaw.org to c/chat@beehaw.org

https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/140vbey/launching_rlemmymigration_what_communities_have/jmxnzsh/?context=1

Look at here and the people who complain about it being too hard to figure out are the ones complaining about "I can't use muh slurs, this is awful."

"The left of today is very much in favour of censorship to avoid “harm.” This makes those of us in the middle very wary of signing up to any partisan media." /u/decidedlysticky23

/u/misshapensteed claims he isn't far right, but explictly only posts on PoliticalCompassMemes and TheLeftCantMeme and KotakuInAction.

If they are too stupid to figure out we know they're lying, they're too stupid to figure out lemmy.

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[-] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 75 points 3 years ago

I'm glad that Beehaw doesn't do it, but the other instances shouldn't be federating the Tankies.

Authoritarian, genocide-denial, Stalin-praising politics have no place on the left.

[-] Kaldo@beehaw.org 16 points 3 years ago

I have to say that I had a really rough whiplash when I saw what kind of communities the admins of lemmy have created and are maintaining (I guess that is what you mean by tankies). Absolutely shocked that this is the credo of people making this "open/free/not controlled by company" software. A company might be preferable at this point >.>

These 2 people are the ones we're supposed to put the faith into to maintain and develop the framework and architecture for all these potential sites? If we fund lemmy we fund them, if they give up then nobody else is probably going to take over, it sounds like a disaster just waiting to happen.

And okay, nice to hear that beehaw is blocking those communities but we're still federated with everything else there, if I'm understanding it correctly, and it's the same users that can easily cross between the instances? That's not very reassuring either.

[-] soulless@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 years ago

Considering that Reddit's capitalist shenanigans is what brought redditors here, having socialist devs is not necessarily a bad thing.

You'd probably also be shocked at how many communists are strongly involved in FOSS development, and just how nice and great people they are on average.

In any case, don't worry too much about it, their software is open source so if they suddenly turn evil, a fork is enough to fix it.

[-] Kaldo@beehaw.org 19 points 3 years ago

I am not worried about socialism, I am personally anti-capitalist too, at least in theory. I am worried about their extreme anti-NATO and seemingly pro-putin propaganda. If they kept these private I also wouldn't mind it but they literally named the tech after their ideals. Ignoring these enormous red flags seems naive.

Or maybe you're right - I'm misreading the situation and people like me who are bothered by that just shouldn't be here in the first place, wrong place for us.

In any case, don’t worry too much about it, their software is open source so if they suddenly turn evil, a fork is enough to fix it.

I am not going to get into this discussion since we can't know what will or wont happen but I am sure that maintaining a project like this requires much more than committing a bugfix to a fork.

[-] GhostMagician@beehaw.org 19 points 3 years ago

Yep, it's kind of like finding out something you use is made by antivaxers, flat earthers, holocaust deniers. Broad political ideology such as supporting communism isn't an issue at all, but finding out some of them hold what feels very reminiscent of alt right extremists is eyebrow raising.

[-] cavemeat@beehaw.org 9 points 3 years ago

You're very right, it makes me a bit wary, especially with uh, familial experience with authoriarian rulers.

[-] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago

Practically all modern technology stems from some pretty brutal history and a hell of a lot of colonialism. I think being informed is important but in most cases there's exceedingly little you can do with this information.

[-] GhostMagician@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

Not using it is an option for something like social media. If this place turned out to be for instance a stormfront run one then it'd definitely be an easy pass without hesitation. At this point I'm new to this type of service so seeing how disconnected and independent from the problem players each instance is.

[-] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago

Apologies if it was unclear, I was directing the comment at the technology itself. You always can choose to use or not use an implementation of said technology for moral reasons.

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