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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

In the USA the FASFA is used to determine how much financial aid (grants, or zero interest loans) someone can get for university

Unfortunately it looks at parents assets as well as the adult students assets.

Unless

  • over the age of 25
  • military veteran
  • married

So the loop hole here is obvious, two students should get married, then their financial need will be totally unmet and get the highest level of benefits

[–] qantravon@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I know someone who had to do this. Her parents were abusive and were refusing to do the FASFA paperwork, holding it over her head for something. She had already been in college a couple of years at this point. So, she found a friend she trusted and they got married, allowing her to get the funding she needed to continue to attend college.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 9 points 13 hours ago

The US is so trash.

[–] BigLime@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm fr curious if this can work. If it does, it seems beyond impossible to find a 25 year old college woman who would even want to marry

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Two 18 year old students about to start university get married. I think it can even be same sex, marriage is marriage.

Remember Marriage isn't for life! You and your partner could get married with the understanding this is just a college marriage.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

"Hey, let's just get married to be eligible for benefits. Yeah, we'll just pinky promise that we won't ever abuse the hell out of our 'partner' who we now share every single responsibility with. I also took out a huge loan to buy a boat, why are you asking, dear? Half of it is technically yours, why aren't you happy?"

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

two penniless students are judgement proof, so even in this scenario when they divorced there wouldn't be anything to recover. As a 18 year old with nothing, as long as you don't have kids, there is almost nothing to lose.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 3 points 23 hours ago

It's not about losing stuff, it's about gaining stuff. Debt, mostly.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's a whole abuse of the purpose of marriage, though

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

A loop hole that is technically correct is still correct.

What is the purpose of marriage?

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 23 hours ago

Legally it is a shortcut to establishment of a number of implied contracts, tells the courts how to unwind those contracts, and rights. In some cases the implied contracts are more effective than written ones. Medical decisions and visitation rights being first ones I can think of.

I sm not a lawyer.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -4 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Two people bound together for life for the purposes of creating a family

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

"You shouldn't use marriage to stop yourself being legally chained to your parents. The purpose of marriage is to legally chain you to your spouse."

If people could "divorce" their parents you wouldn't have to worry about this.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

So divorce shouldn't be allowed in this philosophy?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -4 points 20 hours ago

Only as a last resort. You shouldn't get married without intending to stay together for life.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, you can miss me with the religious bullshit. This is a legal loophole in a legal system.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If it was for religious reasons, I would have specified it as a "man and a woman"

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Then what is your basis for it only being between two people? You're defining it just like religion does because that's where you got the idea even if you don't realize it.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 4 hours ago

Because that's what marriage is and always has been, anything else is contrary to human nature

[–] dragonfucker 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Only two? That seems needlessly restrictive. Is it for religious reasons? Church and state should be separated.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

If it was for religious reasons, I would have specified it as a "man and a woman"

Also, if it's more than two, that's not a marriage; that's a group chat.

[–] dragonfucker 2 points 11 hours ago

You still didn't explain why.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

You're thinking about this all wrong. The age of marriage and childbearing have been going up. Think of the kids who would just decide fuck it might as well just stay married and do this. This could be the arranged marriage of the future.