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Why are the greens like this? How is being prepared to defend ourselves and help our allies "a concern"?

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[–] Ilovethebomb 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did read their document, it talks a lot about what they don't want our military to be doing, and some vague mission statement about what we should be doing.

Overall not a very informative document.

[–] Xcf456 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the examples I pulled out were shoulds. It's not the most detailed policy document but it seems pretty on par with some others I've seen across parties.

I wouldn't say the day to day messaging about the case for doing these exercises in the first place, or entering AUKUS and so on is particularly more detailed anyway. It usually boils down to traditional allies and 'pulling our weight' and so on.

It kiinda feel like you're holding an impossible to meet standard because underneath you just don't agree with the position.

[–] Ilovethebomb 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree, at least one example of what they think our armed forces should be doing to protect NZ and our allies is very easy ask, and yet you can't.

Both their statements and your comments are a series of don'ts.

[–] Xcf456 2 points 1 year ago

How do the things I mentioned not constitute protect NZ and/or our allies. Policing the EEZ against illegal fishing is protecting NZ. Taking part in international peace keeping operations is supporting allies. They are also not 'don'ts'