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Why are the greens like this? How is being prepared to defend ourselves and help our allies "a concern"?

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[–] Rangelus 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An alternative to participating in the war games? The obvious alternative is not participating in war games.

[–] Ilovethebomb 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do we get our troops this type of training otherwise?

[–] Rangelus 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you telling me that this is the only possible way of training troops? If we don't join the US in potentially antagonistic wargames, there is literally no other option and our troops will go completely untrained?

[–] Ilovethebomb 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any idea whatsoever what that alternative is then?

This is what I'm getting at, I'm sick of people bringing up problems without offering a solution.

[–] Rangelus 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you think no-one can criticise an action if they do not present an alternative? That's a pretty ridiculous take, but ok, lets see:

  • Normal training, not "wargames" with other countries
  • Wargames internally, in NZ
  • Liaising with militaries in active war-zones, such as Ukraine, to provide specific training
  • Don't have extra training at all, over what is normally done

I'm not in the military, but these are four alternatives to their current action that I came up with in about 30s. I'm sure better minds could find a solution relatively easily.

I find the requirement of providing an alternative otherwise you dismiss any criticism silly.

[–] Ilovethebomb 0 points 1 year ago

My point was, it's very easy to stand back and criticise, much harder to come up with the alternative, and I don't typically respect the opinions of people who only do the former.