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[–] gift_of_gab@lemmy.world 27 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Jesus Christ I don't think I've ever seen a posts comments so full of reasons this won't work.

You guys don't even need your media to dissuade you, you just convince each other not to do anything.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago) (1 children)

I wonder why a bunch of people might be jumping onto social media, spreading pessimism and suspicion about protests and discouraging people from attending.

Edit: I asked every single person who said that their protest-aware friends told them this was a "false flag" or something, what protest their friends would recommend attending instead. I'm curious to see what the responses are.

Edit: One of the accounts which is expressing well-intentioned nail-biting concern that something really bad might happen to the people who go to these protests, life-changing consequences and all, and urging people to stay safe if they do decide to go... is the same account that has been telling me about how Ukraine is the bad guys, and the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans, and other interesting things.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I expect you'll he hearing a lot of crickets.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 1 hour ago

Some of them are downvoting me for asking them the question.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz -1 points 53 minutes ago (2 children)

The Women's March on January 21, 2017 was one of the biggest protests in US History. It did jack all. The US gov't has been taken over by anti-Consititutional, anti-American, anti-law Republicans at all 3 branches. Going to a protest has about the same impact as typing outrage on Lemmy. It's not pessimism, it's reality. Until masses are seriously prepared to get violent, we are fucked. Personally I'm just getting the fuck out and watch it implode into Gilead.

[–] gift_of_gab@lemmy.world 2 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

The Women’s March on January 21, 2017 was one of the biggest protests in US History.

I didn't say protest, I said strike. They are not the same thing. Protests require Centrists and 'moderates' to care enough to join them. Strikes are meant to directly impact Capitalism. Going to marches every night for a week doesn't hurt business owners, but a week of strikes loses them money in a big way. With sympathy strikes you can get the capitalists fighting each other. With a General Strike all of the lines-go-downward and they'll freak out.

Until masses are seriously prepared to get violent, we are fucked.

Guess which step precedes that?

Get the fuck out in the streets, prevent cars from getting places, block entrances, cause consumers to avoid places, then they'll start paying attention.

God it's so fucking frustrating watching your older brother whining there's nothing they can do when there are provable things they've done in the fucking past that have worked.

Look at the Pullman Strike. Seventy people were killed by cops/military, the strikers still won and it was a massive, historical win for American labour laws.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 1 points 23 minutes ago

I didn’t say protest, I said strike.

Well, you didn't, and the post is about a protest. But your point is a good one.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

Interesting how you skipped over the BLM protests, which were literally 100 times larger than the Women's March, and resulted in significant changes to the exact thing they were protesting, which had previously been a basically unchangeable fact of American government and society.

There's also Euromaidan, which toppled a corrupt government, with about 4 times the attendance of the Women's March.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 1 points 18 minutes ago

I didn't realize police stopped shooting black people. Also, the media's fucked up coverage on the BLM protests had a big impact on ignorant troglodytes supporting fuckhead trump this time around.