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I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Enabled Israel to kill Palestinians vs kill all Palestinians, take their land, turn the US into Giliad, start trade wars with all the neighbors. Same/same.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Even without the enabling of genocide of Palestine, the Democratic Party's refusal to go further left and provide free healthcare and affordable housing at a time people need it most, made the party indirectly complicit with killing those who already died from rough sleeping and refused healthcare by for-profit insurance companies, even if less died on those circumstances than if the Republican party is in charge.

Murder is still murder regardless of numbers. I can't blame people if many sat out at the elections. But it is a wake up call for people to actually mobilise, instead of going on social media and ranting against the system as if that would change anything. If voting doesn't work, go out and protest.

[–] nyamlae@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Murder is still murder regardles of numbers.

Man, what the fuck? Does it register with you how fucked up it is to dismiss the difference in how many will die under a given administration? You do agree that quantitative differences are real and have moral importance, right?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Oh yeah, Lemmy loves to use the trolley problem of making people choose to vote between someone who murders a hundred, and another who would massacre one thousand. I remember the time when the hard choice is between a douche and a turd.

People really stooped so low that the election is reduced to choose between two among 300 million people, on who would murder as fewer brown people as possible. And I am the messed up one for not wanting to elect a murderer who would kill ten times less.

It is want I say anyway, if people actually want alternative, go out and mobilise. Hold their politicians accountable. I guess people forgot to do that and make their politicians accountable if their representatives are not doing the will of the people. As we speak, Pennsylvanians went out to try to kick their progressive turned reactionary congressman, John Fetterman. When was the last time Americans did something like that? It was probably in the 1960s civil rights and anti-war movement and Americans forgot to do something like it.