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[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

What drugs are you on?

Why is it so hard for you to hold people with power accountable for their own actions, as compared with incessantly lashing out at random voters online? Why are you liberals so head in the sand delusional that you refuse to engage with any insight or critique of the Demcoratic party, how it operates, and the decisions that leadership are clearly responsible for keep making?

I didn't decide what Kamalas campaign message was. I didn't decide how she spent the money. I didn't decide that ethnically cleansing Palestinians was too important a position to sacrifice after their own base and literally people within the state department told them repeatedly it was bad policy and bad electorally. No one single person or voter who you decide to fixate on and lash out at online because you got mad at seeing criticism of Democrats meaningfully changed the outcome of the election themselves. How Democrats chose to campaign did.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Making the best decision given two options is one of those adulting skills that one must learn.

These stupid excuses and others have made is like not having enough money to cover all your bills so you spend the money on drugs and alcohol.

It's not cute that you choose escapism and I'm not the bad guy for calling you out.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

People aren't controlled by political leaders. Choosing not to support the only legitimate option that wasn't fascism is a stupid way to stick it to the leaders.

Yes, the democrats ran a bad campaign, but that's a shit excuse to not fight against fascism.

People like you lack any concept of prioritization. If someone throws a molotov cocktail through your window, you don't try to fix the window before putting out the fire. If you let the house burn down you can never fix the window.

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

People aren’t controlled by political leaders. Choosing not to support the only legitimate option that wasn’t fascism is a stupid way to stick it to the leaders.

Who said they were?

Yes, the democrats ran a bad campaign, but that’s a shit excuse to not fight against fascism.

And the democrats had the most means to do so, including as part of an election campaign they fucked.

People like you lack any concept of prioritization. If someone throws a molotov cocktail through your window, you don’t try to fix the window before putting out the fire. If you let the house burn down you can never fix the window.

People like you lack any concept of power and responsibility, or systems and systemic thinking. You're right dude, it's me, the only person in the world who could have stopped fascism in the US by voting for Democrats, despite the actual voting numbers severely outnumbering me, and despite the fact that the campaign wasn't even (singularly) decided by people voting with regards to Palestine, and also despite me literally being in the UK and not having the legal or practical ability to vote in US elections, fucking numbnuts.

The only concept, and the only thing you seem to have the brain power for, is thinking exclusively in terms of individuals who you encounter online that you can shout at for criticising Democrats by suggesting it was their fault Democrats lost. Liberals right now are like someone who sees news of a horrific accident involving a lorry's brakes malfunctioning, crashing into oncoming traffic, who then go about roaming the streets lashing out at random lorry drivers shouting "YOU DID THIS!!!" as the appropriate response. And if anyone says "people who are in charge of the vehicles should bear some responsibility for the functioning of the lorries" you lash out at the person who says that and claim it's actually their fault now.