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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Please link to the part of their constitution that states the presidential elections are suspended during martial law. I'll wait cause it's not there.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://rm.coe.int/constitution-of-ukraine/168071f58b

Article 83

In the event that the term of authority of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine expires while martial law or a state of emergency is in effect, its authority is extended until the day of the first meeting of the first session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine , elected after the cancellation of martial law or of the state of emergency.

From my 10 minutes of searching: Doesn't seem like the president is part of the Verkhovna Rada but from what i can tell the law is being interpreted that if they can't change what's the point of elections for president.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well i posted cause i was curious. So I dgaf. 83 doesn't say no presidentsl elections but that's the "spirit of the law" as interpreted by the people who 83 does states have no elections. Unfortunately, every country has the same issue with how things can be interpreted even if it is bs.

If you wanna say 83 says no elections for the govt but not the president go ahead. Cause that's the literal interpretation. Though a bit silly cause a president without support of the govt that cant get voted out is doing Jack all anyway.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The constitution very clearly says nothing about presidential elections being cancelled during martial law. Your initial comment was factually wrong.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My initial comment on 83 stating it says only the Verkhovna Rada and that president is not clearly part of that section so it is purely the spiritual interpretation of the law?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a factually wrong statement. Have the basic decency to admit that you were wrong:

Yes. Their law doesn’t allow elections when martial law is in effect and it also states that the current president will hold office as long as the successor has been chosen.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Oh I'm sorry I got you confused with a different clown.

[–] zephiriz@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

There are other sections that parts of the constitution can be suspended durring times of emergamcy and some parts that can not be suspended. Also it says the their parlement and presedent are resposibal for calling and holding elections. If they chose not to do so in time of emergancey its within their power. Now im not a lawyer and i dont want to work through the lagic path of it. If you want to

https://rm.coe.int/constitution-of-ukraine/168071f58b

I would be fine with an election if there was a real vote in the teritories taken by russia to see if they want to stay with russia or go back to Ukrain to include Chrimea.