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[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago

More hyperbole from the media based on the stupid drivel that pours out of the old man Trumps mouth.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ukraine will have an election after the war is over. That has always been true.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

There likely won't be an Ukraine left to have elections if the war isn't over soon.

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. Their law doesn't allow elections when martial law is in effect and it also states that the current president will hold office as long as the successor has been chosen. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, it was Ukrainian parliament (or whatever they're called) who decided to not run elections, not Zelensky himself.

Also that 4% approval is complete bullshit, as the article states. If something Zelensky has a bit higher approval than before.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Please link to the part of their constitution that states the presidential elections are suspended during martial law. I'll wait cause it's not there.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://rm.coe.int/constitution-of-ukraine/168071f58b

Article 83

In the event that the term of authority of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine expires while martial law or a state of emergency is in effect, its authority is extended until the day of the first meeting of the first session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine , elected after the cancellation of martial law or of the state of emergency.

From my 10 minutes of searching: Doesn't seem like the president is part of the Verkhovna Rada but from what i can tell the law is being interpreted that if they can't change what's the point of elections for president.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just admit you were wrong.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well i posted cause i was curious. So I dgaf. 83 doesn't say no presidentsl elections but that's the "spirit of the law" as interpreted by the people who 83 does states have no elections. Unfortunately, every country has the same issue with how things can be interpreted even if it is bs.

If you wanna say 83 says no elections for the govt but not the president go ahead. Cause that's the literal interpretation. Though a bit silly cause a president without support of the govt that cant get voted out is doing Jack all anyway.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The constitution very clearly says nothing about presidential elections being cancelled during martial law. Your initial comment was factually wrong.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My initial comment on 83 stating it says only the Verkhovna Rada and that president is not clearly part of that section so it is purely the spiritual interpretation of the law?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a factually wrong statement. Have the basic decency to admit that you were wrong:

Yes. Their law doesn’t allow elections when martial law is in effect and it also states that the current president will hold office as long as the successor has been chosen.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Oh I'm sorry I got you confused with a different clown.

[–] zephiriz@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

There are other sections that parts of the constitution can be suspended durring times of emergamcy and some parts that can not be suspended. Also it says the their parlement and presedent are resposibal for calling and holding elections. If they chose not to do so in time of emergancey its within their power. Now im not a lawyer and i dont want to work through the lagic path of it. If you want to

https://rm.coe.int/constitution-of-ukraine/168071f58b

I would be fine with an election if there was a real vote in the teritories taken by russia to see if they want to stay with russia or go back to Ukrain to include Chrimea.

[–] lemmein@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is the US going to invade Ukraine or how exactly is this going to happen?

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They want to hack and steal the Ukrainian election like they did with the US election

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago

nah, they'll just overthrow the current regime the way they overthrew the government there in 2014

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I knew Ukraine would get fucked one day. Just letting people know this is also how the Middle East was created using this tactic. I find it hilarious.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everybody with a functioning brain knew this was how it all ends from day one.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even the delusional marvel brained libs who thought Ukraine was gonna steamroll Russia should have known, best case scenario, the US ends up with a Saddam in Eastern Europe.

But they don't remember last month's headlines, tall order getting them to read any real history.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

I wonder what it's like to go through life having memory capacity of a goldfish.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"could be ousted"

Uhhhhhh no.

Nobody in their right mind would listen to this.

The Russian Puppet never intended to allow support to continue and is making shit up to try and justify halting aid without serious backlash.

Musketrump and the MAGAts can get fucked. Unless they're willing to go to war to enforce it, there's 0 chance of it happening. And if they go to war for that, they're going to have a hell of a lot of internal conflict that will absolutely result in blood. Militarily and civilian.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

Man you make miles O'Brien sound like an asshole

[–] NastyNative@mander.xyz -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This individual has yet to provide transparency on the allocation of funds sent to support Ukraine. It seems increasingly likely that a number of Americans, including former administration figures, are profiting significantly from these deals. With his wealth growing, it's hard to understand why he would jeopardize his power and financial interests, especially while his own people continue to suffer. It's time for a change in leadership—one that genuinely prioritizes the well-being of the nation and its citizens.

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Idk how this would be possible. Especially with fake democracy in America, the next idiot with zero careship is being elected