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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No worries. Ada never spoke to me about anything regarding not messaging drag, drag must be mistaken?

content warning, discussion of suicide and dealing sensitively with ideation

According to the Harvard Center for Health Communication:

While talking about suicide doesn’t increase risk, you should limit specific details about methods used in suicide, since sharing these is known to increase deaths by suicide.

There is no “cheat code” that makes encouraging to suicide okay, not even bringing in politics. One should always take care in how one interacts with suicidal ideation in others. I have seen no one but drag and drag’s alts indicate that drag’s behavior was appropriate for any community, which should indicate to drag that there is room for growth and apologies rather than doubling down on the same behavior.

Please take care.

[–] dragonfucker -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While talking about suicide doesn’t increase risk, you should limit specific details about methods used in suicide, since sharing these is known to increase deaths by suicide.

When drag was suicidal, many years ago, drag did drag's research on methods of suicide. It turns out, most of them are very unethical. They leave behind messy crime scenes which can traumatise other people. Suicide by train is especially awful. Train drivers have a higher rate of mental illness because they see so many suicides. Pills are the least "messy" method, but they have a very high failure rate, and failures can involve permanent disability such as brain damage. So drag kept reading, and drag decided suicide by falling was the best way to go. Fortunately, drag didn't have easy access to any high enough places, and drag's research delayed drag's attempt long enough for the worst of the feelings to pass. A couple years later, drag transitioned, and has never felt so hopeless again.

Drag is intimately familiar with the mindset of a suicidal person, of that person on that day. You are clearly not, because you haven't taken the time to understand anyone else's point of view about this.

Drag would never incite anyone to suicide, and as you can see in that screenshot, drag didn't that day. But what drag did do, is delay. The same way drag was delayed by that research on the ethics of suicide. Drag gave that person a plan, a productive plan. Not a hopeful plan, because they were not in a mindset to receive hope. But a plan that they could see the value of in their state of mind. A revenge plan. A plan other than suicide. And having a plan other than killing yourself today is a lifesaving thing. Drag doesn't know if you'll ever be able to understand that. And since you haven't understood it in the past weeks of harassment, fuck off and leave drag alone.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I told drag I would have a word, as at the time, I incorrectly believed spujb had a blahaj account. I was going to advise them to block you drag. However, spujb isn’t on blahaj, so this isn’t something that involves me or other blahaj staff.

Notably, I haven’t given drag permission to share our DMs