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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Why is that troll not banned from ALL of lemmy? I don’t get it.

Oh, and for the record; this post and all the comments in it including mine- are exactly why they do what they do.

They feed on the drama. Ban them, and this ends.

[–] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's effectively impossible as a part of the nature of the fediverse. You could try banning alts on site but it's really not that hard to have a dozen alts waiting across host of instances.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And when those alts call themselves “drag” what do you think will happen?

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

They usually don't. Like with Newbuild, they change who they refer to themselves in 3rd person. But an account saying they are friends with Drag, speaking exactly like Drag, but referring to themselves as, in this case, Bot... Almost zero effort to conceal the alt as an alt.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Mods will ban them, they will make a new account and carry on.

Bans only work for normal people.

[–] Draconic_NEO@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Correction bans only work for people who respect the paradigm of "not being allowed to sign up again when banned" and "not being allowed to lie on registration application" if it's present on the server.

Normal people don't get permabanned from servers left, right, and center.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reeks of big brother, but I wonder if there's a way to device ban.

[–] Draconic_NEO@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you could force users to use an app like Reddit does you could get device data. Though short of that not really. Browser fingerprinting and tracking cookie placement (What Reddit uses in their web session) is described that way by lay people (and people trying to fear monger or dissuade ban evasion) but Browsers like Tor or Mullvad defeat that very easily by not saving the data and randomizing the fingerprinting data.

Most Lemmy users wouldn't use a locked down black box app similar to the Reddit app though. It would be a red flag for many of them. An instance which requires that would not be popular.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That tracks. And is a good thing actually. Thanks for taking the time to write this up. Appreciate it!

[–] Draconic_NEO@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

You're very welcome. Happy to help.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I guarantee he’s very attached to the drama he has caused using the “drag” account. Staring all over with another one will be a pain in the ass.

[–] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You'd have to distinguish drag from others using drag neopronouns for fun and or profit. Drag thinks this would be fun for a while, if only to prove drags point dragself.

Did they ever use dragself? I bet they did. We'll never know now.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

Pretty sure they did use "dragself" a few times. Can't bother to dig up the comments

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

This makes my head hurt.