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National leads Labour in new poll but Hipkins still more popular than Luxon (www.rnz.co.nz)

submitted 1 year ago by Ilovethebomb to c/politics

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With how close the two blocs are, this is a big shift.

Labour: 32.3 percent, down 3.6 points
National: 36.6 percent, up 1.3 points
ACT: 12.1 percent, up 1.3 points
Greens: 9.6 percent, up 1.5 points
Te Pāti Māori: 2.7 percent, down 0.8 point
NZ First: 4.1 percent, up 1.1 points

TOP is down 0.5% to 1.5%

Also, ardern is still at 3.7% for preferred prime minister somehow, just behind Winston Peters.

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[–] Ilovethebomb -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The difference between them having 50% say, and having 50% say in the board is mere pedantry, in my view. Of course they will appoint people who will represent their views and interests.

I also don't see what any of this has to do with decisions regarding man made infrastructure, these are not waterways we're talking about, but built infrastructure.

[–] Rangelus 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The difference between them having 50% say, and having 50% say in the board is mere pedantry, in my view. Of course they will appoint people who will represent their views and interests.

But they cannot appoint anything by themselves. The committee needs to agree. They just have a voice at the table, and equal voice.

I also don't see what any of this has to do with decisions regarding man made infrastructure, these are not waterways we're talking about, but built infrastructure.

What infrastructure are you concerned about? If you are talking about the water infrastructure, then my counter argument is - all water flows into the waterways eventually. What happens upstream affects those downstream, so why shouldn't they have a say?

I guess my view is this: it doesn't bother me if we follow Te Tiriti, and it also doesn't bother me if we extend those rights upstream. I do not think that these boards are going to start chucking white folks in jail or anything. What exactly do you think they might so that is "racially bases"?

[–] Ilovethebomb 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's more that they will likely find a way to direct projects towards Iwi owned companies, or find another way to work things to their advantage. The whole system is ripe for abuse.

Iwi deserve a say on consents to take and discharge water, what happens between the two should be none of their business. Their individual members, assuming they are ratepayers, will of course have a say.

[–] Rangelus 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, my comment didn't take by the looks of it.

Tl;Dr I said thanks for the discussion, this is a valid concern, and while I'm not worried I get why it should be addressed.

[–] Ilovethebomb 1 points 1 year ago

I can see both your comments.

Lemmy doesn't seem to like long comment chains for some reason.