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The interesting thing about Lemmy being an echo chamber is that I feel like it is the 4th or 5th echo chamber I've been accused of being in.
It's starting to seem like voter suppression and propaganda were the real problems after all and not people like us being "in an echo chamber."
The problem is that democratically driven content feeds tend to favor the predominant idea only. The very mechanism of "likes" or "upvotes" is literally what creates the echo chamber.
You ever start to write a comment and then change the way you're articulating yourself, or decide not to post it altogether because it requires nuance and more explanation than you're willing to give? That's the force of an echo chamber, it creates homogeneity.
Basically any content platform with voting systems creates content silos.
Doesn't providing nuance counter the homogeneity? Also what's the alternative? Algorithmically promotes content? But those create even more of an echo chamber as you only see what the algo thinks you'll personally engage with.
I guess meeting in person might be better - but even then your neighborhood is probably rather classist so idk how much you'd end up not in an echo chamber either :/
But it doesn’t really matter. As long as one uses multiple apps/forums, I.e different echo chambers, and touches grass in Wild West spaces from time to time, like reality, it’s all fine.
I think the effect of echo chambers is just altogether overblown, and also the natural inclination for a human to just stay in one place, not being curious to peek behind other curtains from time to time. The latter is one of the key traits of our species, we are just simply too curious to ever be completely taken by echo chambers. The individuals with less curiosity and more inclination to stay in place, not change anything, may have this problem more due to those traits. I.e. conservatives.
As long as ones curious and doesn’t explicitly communicate with other humans in one dedicated space, it’s all fine. It’s actively harmful to our psyche to be exposed to something like 4chan or Tate brothers academy just for the sake of not being in an echo chamber.
Nuance only sometimes counters the homogeneity, I think. People tend to respond highly emotionally when things are anonymous, no matter how strucured the content is. That's why rage bait dominates our headlines! I don't know. I certainly dont know a better approach. I haven't really thought about it tbh. The modus operandi felt like it worked until it didn't. Now look at us.
What's "best for most" isn't ever really gonna be best. But I have no idea how we best go about curating a digital society that is both democratic and not an echo chamber.
Mastodon gets the same accusation as well and there's no up voting or algorithm at play. What does seem true is that each environment is representative of those who participate. Reddit is 20+% trolls and bad faith for any major sub and conversations reflect that.
In general, my primary complaint to the echo chamber argument is that if everywhere you go, all you can find are echo chambers, then maybe they're not echo chambers and actually reflecting the population?
Also places like reddit will have subs that will ban you for the slightest nuance, or misconstrued comment