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I know it is easy to say lemmy is an echo chamber, but look at Kansas's voting history. We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg.
A lot of the programs and cuts DOG-e is doing has not taken effect yet due to the courts. Give it a 8 months to a year. Middle America will be in big trouble if the cuts proceed.
https://ballotpedia.org/Meade_County,_Kansas,_elections,_2023
The interesting thing about Lemmy being an echo chamber is that I feel like it is the 4th or 5th echo chamber I've been accused of being in.
It's starting to seem like voter suppression and propaganda were the real problems after all and not people like us being "in an echo chamber."
The problem is that democratically driven content feeds tend to favor the predominant idea only. The very mechanism of "likes" or "upvotes" is literally what creates the echo chamber.
You ever start to write a comment and then change the way you're articulating yourself, or decide not to post it altogether because it requires nuance and more explanation than you're willing to give? That's the force of an echo chamber, it creates homogeneity.
Basically any content platform with voting systems creates content silos.
Doesn't providing nuance counter the homogeneity? Also what's the alternative? Algorithmically promotes content? But those create even more of an echo chamber as you only see what the algo thinks you'll personally engage with.
I guess meeting in person might be better - but even then your neighborhood is probably rather classist so idk how much you'd end up not in an echo chamber either :/
But it doesn’t really matter. As long as one uses multiple apps/forums, I.e different echo chambers, and touches grass in Wild West spaces from time to time, like reality, it’s all fine.
I think the effect of echo chambers is just altogether overblown, and also the natural inclination for a human to just stay in one place, not being curious to peek behind other curtains from time to time. The latter is one of the key traits of our species, we are just simply too curious to ever be completely taken by echo chambers. The individuals with less curiosity and more inclination to stay in place, not change anything, may have this problem more due to those traits. I.e. conservatives.
As long as ones curious and doesn’t explicitly communicate with other humans in one dedicated space, it’s all fine. It’s actively harmful to our psyche to be exposed to something like 4chan or Tate brothers academy just for the sake of not being in an echo chamber.
Nuance only sometimes counters the homogeneity, I think. People tend to respond highly emotionally when things are anonymous, no matter how strucured the content is. That's why rage bait dominates our headlines! I don't know. I certainly dont know a better approach. I haven't really thought about it tbh. The modus operandi felt like it worked until it didn't. Now look at us.
What's "best for most" isn't ever really gonna be best. But I have no idea how we best go about curating a digital society that is both democratic and not an echo chamber.
Mastodon gets the same accusation as well and there's no up voting or algorithm at play. What does seem true is that each environment is representative of those who participate. Reddit is 20+% trolls and bad faith for any major sub and conversations reflect that.
In general, my primary complaint to the echo chamber argument is that if everywhere you go, all you can find are echo chambers, then maybe they're not echo chambers and actually reflecting the population?
Also places like reddit will have subs that will ban you for the slightest nuance, or misconstrued comment
The presidential vote is not a complete picture. Kansas regularly votes in Democratic governors and they voted in favor of abortion protections. The eastern side of the state is less conservative than you might think.
And they will still blame Obama or Biden or immigrants or DEI, etc.
They find a way to blame it on Hillary and "cackling" Kamala
These are the actions of a yellow bellied coward and traitor.
All these Antifa farmers and veterans asking questions about getting bankrupted by Elon administration policies are clearly woke trans communist activists in disguise. Be sure to tell them that when it comes time for the midterms.
Mid... terms?
He's CORRECT! ONLY Democrats care about Veterans!
This is something that is truly baffling to me. Veterans almost universally not only vote Republican but are fervent supporters of Republican agenda and year after year, without fail, Republicans try to fuck them over specifically. It's so weird to me.
Already with this term... Veterans are beneficiaries of a shit ton of DEI programs. Like a TON. And they are actively voting to get rid of all of them.
God, the fucking assumptions people make when they find out you're a veteran! I swear people will be like, "Ah, a fellow veteran, aren't you glad they're kicking out all the trans people?" Wtf, no, you asshole!
Airport bars are the worst. I don't know how many times I'll be talking with someone that seems friendly enough just killing time. Then it will eventually get to this interaction
Where are you from?
Sigh
San Francisco
Well, let me tell you what fox news told me to think about that hellhole
Have you ever been?
Well, no, but
Also, the VA is massively underfunded because of them, and they'll bitch about it and still vote for the people who are trying to shut it down.
Yup they don't realize that, especially in colleges they are often given priority for classes
It's obviously a ruse! It can't possible be that voters are actually angry.
Now, how else can I make more money for billionares?
how else can I make more money for billionares?
That's the agenda for his next two meetings
They’ll still vote for him though.
correct. just a little collateral damage in exchange for some of the 'right people' getting hurt. nbd to them.
And by far most of these booing voters will just vote for this very same guy again the next time he's up for reelection. Rural voters have been so predictable it's why these politicians can just walk away from town halls like this, they know they still have the votes.
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