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Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez condemned Donald Trump and Elon Musk at a packed Arizona rally, accusing them of harming working-class Americans and promoting oligarchy.

Sanders denounced corporate CEOs as “major criminals” exploiting workers, while Ocasio-Cortez called for stronger Democratic leadership.

Rallygoers urged Ocasio-Cortez to challenge Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer after he supported a Republican funding bill.

The rally, part of Sanders' “Stop Oligarchy” tour, follows criticism of the Democratic Party’s weak response to Trump’s agenda and features further events in Colorado and Arizona.

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[-] boughtmysoul@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Actually the groups that swung the election for Trump were young men (HUGE swing), and immigrants (despite voting against their own interests and pulling the ladder up behind them for future immigration).

Senior men were more likely to vote for Kamala than young men.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

We gotta figure out how to De-Tate people

[-] recall519@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Not really. There wasn't a huge swing of people switching from Democrats or independents to vote for Trump. Those target groups just decided not to vote. In other words, it's not like more people are relating to Trump's messages, but it's people not relating with either's message and feeling apathetic. This is why Trump bashing isn't helping. There needs to be genuine improvement of the Democratic party itself.

[-] boughtmysoul@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

Traditional democrats swung huge for Trump. Young men, immigrants, working class. Even many groups who didn’t vote said that they would have voted for Trump if voting was a requirement. If voting had been mandatory, Trump would have won the popular vote by even more.

It was a blowout on almost every level. Young women, particularly college-educated young women, are the only group who swung left this past election. Make of that what you will.

[-] recall519@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Show me the data.

Trump received less than 300k more votes in 2024 than in 2020. That is less than 1% increase. Adjusted for the voting population, he actually received less votes in 2024 than 2020.

Harris received about 10 MILLION less votes in 2024 than Biden in 2020, about a 13% decrease.

Sure, when you look at percentages, it seems like there was a swing, but that's just not true. The data shows every year, Republicans vote for Republicans, but Democrats do not vote at all when they don't fully support their leader (not even for a third party).

The exact same thing happened with Obama, but inverse. There were historically high increase in voter turnout because the constituents actually supported him.

Data shows that increase in voter turnout correlates with Blue wins. That's not debatable.

[-] shawn1122@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Immigrants did still vote for Kamala as a majority (55%).

I wasn't aware of the massive jump Trump had achieved with young men. Looks like it was especially true with young white men, with nearly two thirds voting for Trump. Less than 30% of young men from other racial demographics voted for Trump with the exception of Latinos (45%).

Overall the biggest jumps were with Latinos and young white men but he saw an increase in nearly of every demographic except older white people with whom he has historically had majority support.

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