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That volunteer fire-fighter was there to support an adjudicated rapist and general piece of shit
I don't think anything of value was lost.
Obviously, insofar as the meme goes, I'd rather the shooter was the one to survive
Trump paid his respect to the FF, by ignoring the wife and made out with a new firefighter uniform on stage
This attitude is unproductive. He still died protecting his family. Martin Luther stood up to the establishment and is seen as a hero as such, even though he carried antisemitic views. Churchill was a hero in fighting nazism, even though he used terminology in memoirs that weren't very politically correct. Sure, Corey was flawed in that he was supporting trump (which a large amount of Americans were doing), but it's not worth saying his life had no value over it, especially when he died shielding his family.
Protecting his family Jesus, where do people get this shit? He was standing in a field. Like a dolt. Cheering on a fascist.
His life didn't have no value. It had negative value. Just like every other brain dead asshole who still supports that orange turd.
Protecting them from what? There was one shot.
BBC News - 'It didn't have to happen': Wife of man killed at Trump rally struggles with loss
There were eight shots
My bad, one shot that hit him.
Really thinking about it, politics aside. If he was a bad person, is a bad person dying doing a good thing something that would be praised?
Depends on your stance on the death penalty.
Article 37 of Anglicanism holds the stance:
However, many other people may have other stances
Source: BBC Bitesize, CCEA Religious Studies
I wouldn't say that voting for Trump would make you a bad person. Or supporting him in the context that you believe he is better than the opposition. But it is down to reasoning also. Kamala Harris made some blunders or had policies which may have caused people to withhold their vote from her out of conscience.
If someone is supporting trump because they believe abortion is murder and that Trump could end it, or that his economic policies are somehow better, or that he'd better society, I wouldn't see them as a bad person. I would, however, if it was because they held hatred of a racist, homophobic or a transphobic nature. I don't think simply supporting trump could make you a bad person, but the reasons you do could make you one.
Yeah I'm not really interested in the politics side and I think the death penalty has a lot more variables. Religion is it's own can of worms for sure.
It was more of a kind moral question I stumbled into when thinking about it. If there were such a person that was a "bad person" and they did a good act resulting in their death, is that a net good for society and is it right to cheer it on. I think it is a net good, but cheering at death just seems hard to justify.
He was a volunteer firefighter. I reckon he was benefit to society. I wouldn't cheer a death lightly.
Another thing is, people can be indoctrinated/misled into supporting Trump. I find a lot of passive supporters or believers in conspiracy theories seem to be moreso victims. Trump can pay lip service to Corey, but we all know that deep down, he is glad it was Corey and not him. Another case is Ashli Babbitt. I think it's a tragedy that she was misled, groomed and indoctrinated into storming the United States parliament building, but her shooting was still justified. She was part of a mob that was going after Mike Pence. She was possibly led to believe that what she was doing was fighting for her country. But it was still a tragedy that she was there and not at home with her family, even though the killing was necessary, given the circumstances.
Personally, I wouldn't condemn people celebrating the deaths of the likes of Trump, Putin or Netanyahu if they were shot. In fact, I would probably be happy myself - especially if Putin.
I also don't think the execution of your CEO guy by Luigi was unjustified either, and don't have a problem with people celebrating that. But these are people in power directly responsible for making the world worse. You can be indirectly responsible for making the world worse and not know it. Such as misled voters (I used to be misled into thinking Brexit was a good thing)
Even when it comes to power, for example, I wouldn't celebrate the death of Lis Truss. She was stupid, but not malicious enough.
He was a fucking traitor. His family, and the world, is better off without him passing his ignorant treasonous ideas down to his children.
Braindead take.
Yes, the only thing wrong with Churchill was his use of slurs. It's not like he ever condemned millions of people to death in the name of profits, especially not in Bengal.
It's sad to see this sort of toxicity. People are neither just good or just bad, and so no one should have to to justify their right to not be killed. Human life is precious, even if they vote Republican.
If someone dies campaigning for the deaths of innocent people I don't feel sorry for them. It's that simple. Sorry if basic karma is offensive to you.
Agreed. However, this guy wasn't campaigning for the deaths of innocent people.
If they vote Republican they're currently expecting me to justify my right to not be killed. That doesn't sound very precious to me, that sounds like a dangerous threat to my life.