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[–] doug@lemmy.today 136 points 1 year ago (6 children)

As much as I enjoyed Idiocracy when it came out, I wish its proposed answer/crux of the issue wasn’t “smart people should have kids” and instead focused on educating the ones that are already here/brought into this world.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People want easy solutions, like "Have more people be born smart" instead of hard, complex, realistic ones like "Put time, effort, and resources into robust education of the population in stable familial and social environments to develop higher averages of generally recognized metrics of intelligence in the general population"

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 year ago

more like rich and powerful people want stupid masses

stop blaming these issues on individuals when the whole system is setup to fuck them into this mess

anymore than individuals can fix our plastics or fossil fuel issues

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought Idiocracy didn’t propose any solution at all. If I remember correctly, smart people not having kids was just a plot driver. Sadly, with the way things are that is how it’s gonna happen in our lifetime most likely. Education is getting worse over time, so the ones who’ll be able to educate their kids properly are those who are already educated.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure the smart folks waited till they could provide for their kid well before finding out they couldn't even have any. Implying that even if they did that kid would have been outnumbered by the mass breeding of fuckwits who's only objective in life was rawdoggin after a good time.

It actually feels crazy that I know dudes who emulate the idiots from the beginning montage almost exactly. They didn't used to be that way, it ramped up the last couple years

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the problem with Idiocracy is that it over plays the role of genetics and doesn't differentiate between ignorance and stupidity.

Sure, genetics plays some role, but I've seen some very smart people that came from average parents and some very dumb people who came from smart parents.

Education plays a much bigger role than people give it credit for.

I feel like there are probably some very smart people out there who we don't know about because of their lack of educational opportunities.

Pretty much my whole life (I'm 51) Americans have been talking about how bad our education system is compared to much of the world, yet nothing substantial was done about it. I think the current state of affairs is a reflection of that fact.

I don't think that the movie was proposing that the issue or solution is eugenics based. I would argue that educated people are probably able provide a better education, and that uneducated parents are less likely to be able to provide their children with a quality education.

I don't specifically remember Idiocracy really going into depth about "passing good genes".

[–] Cobrachicken@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As unpopular this may be: With some, or probably some more, there are limits to what can be achieved with care and education.

[–] absGeekNZ 7 points 1 year ago

Maybe, but those limits are extremely far from what we currently achieve....so there is that to consider.