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Trump team claims 250,000 watched military parade. ‘No Kings’ events drew 4 million
(www.independent.co.uk)
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The "No Kings" events drew A LOT more than 4 million.
G. Elliot Morris on Bluesky did a breakdown of the numbers and his very conservative, low-end number was 4mil. Top end was 6mil.
What's his methodology?
He counted them
Not all. 5 million is an undercount from what I saw.
What’s your methodology?
it was revealed to me in a dream
Oh shit, we can’t doubt the prophecy.
Alt National Parks usually have good counts. They say 12.1
You counted them then?
Highest estimate I've heard is 13M. Can't back it up, but I wouldn't be surprised. There were 100 in my little town, and we got way more honks of support than rude fingers.
2 Million is a huge difference
With a U.S. population of 340.11 million (Wikipedia number) that's 1.18 - 1.76%. That's... pretty pathetic considering what was being protested.
1 - 2 people out of every 100 in America stand against fascism, the rest... who knows?
Edit: at this rate more Americans will have downvoted my comments than bothered to say they're opposed to fascism. No wonder you elected a reality TV star with mush for brains as your leader. Well done, you took to the streets, but not enough of you, not while you're still free to do so. Get good or suffer the consequences. You've seen what's coming, do something about it. If only 1-2 out of 100 of you can be arsed to say no, then the jackboots will take that as a green light to do what they want. After that, getting more numbers to show up will become increasingly difficult. Now is your chance, seize it while you still can. Don't just clap yourself on the back, say "well done, we showed them" and go back to your day job as if life is back to normal. Do as the French do, keep protesting until your demands are met.
GTFO. It was the third largest in US history. For that many people to mobilize and organize in this country was something to be proud of, and I am the first to admit how cynical I am and unimpressed by the response we've made so far.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_and_demonstrations_in_the_United_States_by_size
For context:
5% of the Italian population protested the Iraq war.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_February_2003_anti-war_protests
That's 25% of the population.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Way
3.3% of the Phillipines population protested in 1986 whilst under a dictatorship.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Power_Revolution
Edit:
37.5% of the US population watched the Super Bowl in 2025 but less than 2% protested a fascist takeover of the country. Shows your priorities. The downvotes also really tell that your feels are hurt more than caring about the reals of the situation.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_television_ratings
Edit 2: 200k just marched in The Netherlands against genocide. That's 1.09% of their population marching for an issue that doesn't even personally affect them, because they have principles. But y'all can't even get double that for an issue that will personally effect the rest of your lives. Shame.
https://lemmy.world/post/31485267
GTFO. They're waking up. Get over yourself.
4 years of the alarm ringing, a 4 year snooze, and then 6 months of the alarm ringing again is an awfully long time to take to wake up. All whilst living in the "richest" country in the world, with the freedom to carry guns, and say what you want. That's... Even more pathetic than I first thought.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed seeing the pictures and videos of thousands, millions, of people marching, but you can do better.
You’re comparing one day protests to weeks or months long protests.
Was No Kings truly a one day protest when there's been anti-Trump protests dotted around for weeks? It's one part of a larger group of protests.
All of the numbers I took were for one day turnouts. They're comparable.
"3.3% is pathetic considering what they were protesting" 🙄 that's how you sound.
Then you've not engaged your brain.
How easy was communication in 1986 compared to now?
How easy was mobilisation, in an island nation, under a dictatorship?
Americans still have most of their freedoms, use them before you lose them.
Fuck off.
Rude.
Yeah, because you were rude to me. Hope this helps!
It only helps if you're willing to go onto the street and tell Trump and his fascist buddies the same message.
Because otherwise, they'll do far worse than a nerd on the internet telling you to think.
Donald loves the poorly uneducated. Funny how they’re against LGBT, but wouldn’t mind licking his asshole or suck his dick.
I mean you are including all babies and people in nursing homes and in prison and in the military and have jobs that they can't not go to and in psych facilities. Its still pathetic really but just pointing out using the whole population is a bit off. Also really rural is sorta hard. I can say the folks driving and being inconvenienced by it seemed jazzed and supportive in their honks and call outs (you can tell pissed off from alright) and there were folks in building windows shouting encouragement. I guess im saying I have seen protests get a lot less nice of reactions to people not in them.
Are you kidding me? When Minnesota’s were basically cancelled due to political violence and who knows how many people had to work? 1-2% of the entire population is fucking huge.
98.5% of the population had to work on a Saturday?
Or have family shit, or are just too tired, or are sick, traveling, in fear of repercussions, have to get the car serviced, take the pet to the vet, are dealing with the fallout of tornadoes/fires/flooding, etc., etc., etc..
There’s a million reasons why people can’t attend an event they support. I’d say 10-20x the turnout would be the real number of supportive numbers.
That's an awful lot of excuses for allowing fascism to proliferate.
Democracy isn't just ticking a box every 4-5 years and being done with it.
If you don't want to live under autocracy then you need to actually show up and make your voice heard.
37.5% of the US population could make time to watch the Super Bowl but less than 2% could make time to walk through their town/city centre? Shameful.
Passive seems to describe the American attitude to democracy as well.
That's an absolutely huge amount of people.
Source? Everything I read said 4-5 iirc
50501 has reported ~~11~~ 12.1 Million.
ETA Source: https://50501.chat/post/338144
I’m not seeing any real source here besides one account making a claim?
Further, it happens to hit the magical "3.5%" number everyone was throwing around.
Maybe it's correct and others will vouch for it, analysize, but an estimate that's significantly higher than an already decently high number that bridges the apparent gap to the 3.5% number almost exactly seems too conveniently on point, like someone wanted to stretch the numbers as little as possible while still hitting the designated number.
It's based on a thoughtful, rigorous analysis, but that 3.5% number is full of caveats. The fact that anyone regards it as a hard threshold is a sign of how easily nuance is lost on social media.
While it might be thoughtful, it's based on like 3 events. It's crazy to even bother mention the 3.5% threshold with such a trivial sample size.
Just the multiplier alone - take any individual protest and multiply it by over 2,000 … gets big fast.
I actually had five very convenient choices
People in my town did a thing then headed down to Philly as a crew
Even Salem had a huge crowd, and I was there at 10am - people started walking with signs.
The magic number to reach the 3.5% "Tipping Point" is about 12 million. We didn't hit that on No Kings day, but we did pretty well. With protests scattered around the country, it's hard to have an accurate count, but the massive crowds in large cities across America have to be intimidating to the MAGA Nazis.
It's important to understand that while they want to have 12 million VISIBLE protesters, there are MANY more resistors at home who would never attend a protest for various reasons. Those people are still resistors in their own way, even if it's just staying free of conservative propaganda and voting Democrat. Then there are people like me, who are unlikely to go to a demonstration, but actively oppose the MAGA Nazis online, in forums like Lemmy.
Add the keyboard warriors to the physical protesters, and that 3.5%/ 12 million Tipping Point looks a lot closer.