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[-] mienshao@lemmy.world 141 points 1 year ago

I fucking love that he chose to call them stalinists. In addition to it being true, it send a fuck you to the alt-right and the alt-left (who love to talk up stalin as of late)

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 16 points 1 year ago

Who in the alt left is talking about Stalin lol maybe some whackos online

[-] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago
[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

maybe some whackos online

Checks out.

[-] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who, you know, MIGHT be real people but probably aren’t for the most part..

I just assume any .ml account is a propaganda bot. Because even if they are real people.. they are propaganda bots.

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago
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[-] Denvil@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm just kinda here, idk wth the rest of the instance is up to

[-] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

in my experience, every tankie I came across is from .ml, not saying every .ml user is a tankie, but every tankie is a .ml user.

From someone who has gone to more than a few political protests and rallies in Boston:

Every fucking time Socialist Alternative shows up, it’s fine until some edgelord dipshit unfurls the fucking huge Soviet flag with Stalin and Mao silk screened on it. It’s like they’re trying to alienate reasonable people as well as historically-informed people. I consider myself a staunch socialist. I also outright detest Stalin and Mao because they were fucking authoritarian despots who wrapped their regimes in “communism” banners.

Sure, some of the systems at lower levels were socialistic, but at the end of the day, it was all in service to the cult of personality in charge of the whole gig. And yes, that’s what the US has devolved into (and arguably had done so quite a while ago, just not so overtly), but that doesn’t excuse Stalin or Mao, nor does it justify being an apologist for them.

[-] solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

From that perspective, any thoughts on Ho Chi Minh?

Of all the leaders good, bad, and, ugly over the last century, he doesn't seem to be brought up as much by propaganda machines.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Why is it always Mao or Stalin? Can't they at least go with folks who shed the blood of fascists like Tito or Castro? They werent particularly good either but at least they were doing the best with their dealt decks. Mind you I fucking loathe elevating folks to positions of respect unless they were my ancestors or damned well earned it via death and glory.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I also outright detest Stalin and Mao because they were fucking authoritarian despots

You could easily say the same of Washington or Eisenhower or Churchill or DeGualle.

Hell, Lincoln got got by a guy who was literally shouting "Sic Semper Tyrantus".

The thing that sets Stalin and Mao apart from the Francos and Mussolinis and Tojos and Chang Kai-Sheks and Churchills was their break from the old line aristocracy. The thing westerners hate more than anything was their overthrow of the local monarchies.

That's why you have folks weeping big crocodile tears over Anastasia and Puyi, while they whistle past the graveyard of the countless Chinese and Russian victims of Romanov/Qing Dynasty misrule.

[-] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 year ago

Oh man, a thousand times this, fucking tankies are a pain and a ball and chain on the leg of progress.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Stalin took the Russian state from an agricultural backwater to a Space Age superpower in a matter of twenty years.

If he'd started out a Virginia plantation owner instead of a Georgian bank robber, capitalists would have loved him. He'd be bigger than Churchill.

American liberals love (the whitewashed version of) FDR because they see the quasi-socialism of the mid-20th century as the morally correct path. Eastern Europeans - who came through two world wars and repeated genocides on every front - have a lot more of an appetite for Iron Fisted Dictator[Communist] after enduring generations of Iron Fisted Dictator[Monarchist]

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[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Aw I thought he called the sanatists but I think either would work

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Modern Satanists are actually extremely progressive. The Satanic Temple makes a point of using legislation intended to promote Christianity to promote their own religious organization.

It pisses off the reactionary religious zealots and shows them to be hypocrites, and there's nothing legislators can do about it without blatantly giving preferential treatment to the "correct" religion.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

To be fair, the Satanic Temple isn't exactly satanic per se. It's more of a parody religion to point out the unfair law exceptions churches get. They are more anti-church (or maybe even anti-religion) than actually satanic.

I'd be very surprised if a significant portion of members of the Satanic Temple actually seriously believe in the existence of satan.

It's about the same as e.g. the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I'm talking about their version of satanists not the real people

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

sanatists

Ah yes. Sanat, Satan's lesser known brother.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Who would win, Sanat or Craig?

[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I think you see how I got satanists from stalinists now

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Shame they're not santanists

Great guitarist

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

We worship that tone amirite?

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