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Hatred is like Holding a Burning Coal
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But those other fuel sources won't do what hate can.
...for instance, many a programmer has fixed a software bug because they hate their software glitching at that specific point. They get frustrated and angry, hateful.
The hate makes them persistent, makes them chase the problem long enough to solve it.
Hate has fueled revolutions. Killed CEOs and pedophiles. Robbed banks. Things love would forgive over, or refuse to do.
Hate can accomplish where other emotions would give up.
Does it solve it? Or does it just shove it away until it pops up again?
Hate doesn't look for solutions, it just seeks to remove something detesteble. A revolution fueled by hate toppled a regime... just for something else, often much worse, to take its place.
Hate is great and continual, persistent determination of a singular goal... not for effective progress.
You attribute far too much to a simple, inefficient, emotion.
Compassion, empathy, desire to do good creates positive change. All hate does is perpetuate a cycle of fear and violence. It can seem like a positive in the short term, but it never lasts.
Everything is cyclical. You can have systems premised on "love" and end up in the same shit pool later. That's not really relevant - everything's temporary.
Plenty of hateful revolutions (eg. France, Russia, China) have made lasting long term changes. Plenty of love-based movements have flopped quickly (most communes, the hippy generation, lots of romantic relationships).
So I think you're demonstrably incorrect when claiming one emotional source creates lasting effects and the other doesn't.
I mean, one of the most persistent human endeavors: Holy Wars are fueled by hate and last pretty much longer than anything else we do.
We're apes, not utopians. Hungry emotionally suffering, creatures of simple habits and reactions. Not angels, or saints.
So yeah, plenty of persistent, long lasting effects and activities are fueled by hate. You might not see positivity or growth there, but we're not debating your opinion. We're debating the emotional fuel source, it's power and longevity.
It's a mainstay of human behavior.
Killing out of hate for others alone tends to only bring suffering later.
Killing out of love of many brings about progressive change.
Everyone thinks love is only passive, forgetting it's also passionate
"Killing out of love"???...
...no such thing. Love says it's infinite, so live and let live. Forgive and let forgive. That's how most understand the practice of love.
Forgiveness isn't love, it's forgiveness.
People have forgotten that Love is passionate, and you may do terrible things because of it. But it also let's you get through harshness for the love of a greater good.
For example, many might want to murder someone like Putin solely because they hate him.
But some would seek to do it because they love peace and want a better world.
I suppose though it doesn't benefit imperialism to think of things that way, however.
At that point I think we have to give the credit to hate as being the motivator. The love might have lead to the hate, but I don't think that's the same as it being the motivator for the killing (not if we're attributing it "soley" to hate).
So I think even in trying to give an example of "killing for love" we switched teams halfway through. The love may have lead to the hate, but hate did the heavy lifting.