Iran is an insane unhinged country, I seriously wish we could help them and Afghans because the mess we left in Afghanistan is really heartbreaking to see

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Didn't US intervention lead to this problem?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. US foreign policy has been helping Islamo-fascism on for a long, long time now. Coups, invasions, funding, training... you name it, the US has done it.

The Taliban only exists because of all the arms supplies the US gave these extremists during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Also the Iranian Revolution (which wasn't entirely Islamist in nature, but they were the ones who won the power struggle in its immediate aftermath - the liberals were out of the picture by 1980, while the communist opposition got finished off in mass executions in 1988) happened due to the unpopularity of absolute monarch Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who was stubbornly supported by the US to his last days.

And this has roots in the western-supported coup against Mohammad Mosaddegh in 1953, who was a social democratic reformer.

It's a story that unfortunately repeats many times around the region, and globally too.

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe partially. The socialist governments wanted secularism, got overthrown by the CIA, then that government got overthrown by theocrats. How much of Iranian society supports these policies regardless of the US’ intervention, I don’t know

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, not partially. Entirely. When you destroy the left, you get the right taking power. And the fact that the theocrats were more popular than the CIA puppet should tell you a lot.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

The US installed a regime so terrible Iran chose a religious autocrat over that

[–] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Afghanistan was like this before US intervention when Russia invaded

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Russia didn't invade, it was literally invited into the country by a socialist democracy (but I repeat myself)

Also no, youre wrong. The base of power was with tribal leaders, not oriented around far right religious extremism.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

The US caused it! The best they can do is stay out of it and not "try to help"

[–] Pussydogger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Last time in 1979 USA and UK help them and it ended up like this.