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[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes and no. Chainsaw is really marginal polluter.

What warms your house in the winter? Where is dirtier snow? In your fathers homestead or in the city? Where is more generaly more particless in the air? In the countryside or in the city.

Wood is better than coal or oil, but worse than nuclear or renevables.

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 11 points 11 months ago

In Germany the countryside often is way worse. Especially in the winter. All of those super old, shitty wood furnaces pumping out fine particles often create a worse environment than on new year's eve. Farmers shredding their crops, pesticides everywhere, polluted ground water from all the fertilizers, etc.

The 100k Population town I used to live in is way cleaner than the shit I have to deal with just a mere 5km outside of that town.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What warms your house in the winter?

Electricity, like the vast majority of people here. About 94% of which is hydroelectricity. Other ways to heat buildings are slowly getting banned anyway.

Where is dirtier snow? In your fathers homestead or in the city?

What? The snow is dirty where there are particles in the air that ends up on the ground. It's not a contest of city vs countryside. If you live in a place that snows and walk around a house that is heated by wood burning, you will see black particles and specks in the snow surrounding the house. It's the same at my cabin. When I get there the snow outside is impeccable... until I light the wood stove inside, and then it slowly turns grey all around the cabin. It doesn't matter if the snow in a city is even dirtier.

Where is more generaly more particless in the air? In the countryside or in the city.

Funny thing, in winter during smog episodes, the air quality can be worse in the countryside because of people burning wood. Anyway, it's banned in bigger cities because of how horrible this is in dense population centers. So, ironically, the air is more polluted when I go to my parents' place in the countryside where they are burning wood to heat their house, than around my apartment in the downtown of a major city. Again, sometimes the air quality is worse in the countryside or in suburbs during winter, in large parts because of wood burning.

[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Where in the world you live if 94% of energy comes from hydroelectricity? It has to be Norway that is pretty unique country in both culture and landscape. I dont think there is any other country where that is possible.

And i can admit that in Norway my points fall flat.

I dare to say that in the most of the world air quality is worse in the cities than in the countryside. Also i dare to say most of the time even where you live air quality is worse in the cities.

I dont really understand your point with the sut on the snow? If you live in the city the snow is grey and nasty meaning there is more pollution? Does that not mean there is less pollution in the countryside? Im mean per person there might be more in the rural areas, but i dont really think your lungs care.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Cant find any credible source that says Canada produces even near to that percentage of electricity with hydro.

I tought we were talking pollution as a whole.

Btw. Im little intrested now why your cabin producess so much sut? What fire wood you use as a fire wood in canada? What kind ovens you use? Is the chimneys straight pipes or what?

[–] RadicalYogi@piefed.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He is referring Québec, our main (only?) power supplier is even called Hydro-Québec, but they also do wind and solar power.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Aktshually, there's a few municipalities with their own power companies. I knew about Hydro Sherbrooke but TIL there's also Hydro Magog, Hydro Coaticook and Hydro Joliette.

[–] RadicalYogi@piefed.social 2 points 11 months ago

We don't talk about those...

(TIL, thanks!)

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

The numbers are for Québec only.

In 2021, Quebec generated almost all of its electricity from renewables including hydro (94%), wind (5%), biomass (0.6%) and solar (<0.1%), showing just how much of a renewable powerhouse the province is. Today, its utility operator, Hydro-Quebec, is the largest in Canada, playing an integral role in power exports to U.S. states like New York, New England, and Maine.

Quebec’s continued leadership in providing renewable electricity to North American customers is something we can all be proud of.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

I heat primarily with wood and no you don't get gray fucking snow around the house. This person is exaggerating for effect.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 11 months ago

Im mean per person there might be more in the rural areas, but i dont really think your lungs care.

I really don't think it's possible to transplant every city's population into low-density countryside locations. Without the majority of people dying, anyway.