this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2023
361 points (100.0% liked)
Technology
37738 readers
416 users here now
A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.
Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.
Subcommunities on Beehaw:
This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Eh, I'd say the difference between selling it for themselves and for charity is meaningful. One seems like a play for dollars taking advantage of their connections while the other just sounds like a communication fuckup where the ones taking care of the block weren't in contact with the ones making promises to return it. Neither is good, of course, but to someone outside the situation they do impact my view of the company differently.
Regardless, the main issue is their absurd pace and he doesn't address that at all. I hope their new CEO is more willing to budge on that than Linus has been, but it's too early to tell.
Which is probably the intended tactic here. Pretend you've been misrepresented as having sold something that isn't yours for profit, then clarify that it was actually just a mix-up and you were trying to do the right thing. People focus on the ethical difference between the strawman scenario you created and what actually happened and think "hey, that's not so bad actually", so you get some forgiveness without ever properly acknowledging the real problem - that you attempted to redistribute something that wasn't yours, without permission from the real owner. Despite Linus's claims, he really doesn't address that at all in his "apology". It's mostly just fake moral grandstanding over "journalistic practices", portraying the person who is reporting on this issue as the true villain.
I don't know why you say "pretend" there. Having seen the GN video first, the tone and lack of specificity definitely led me to believe it was being sold for profit (I was surprised when I found out it was for charity), and I would totally want to clear that up if I were in Linus' position.
I dunno, I don't really care that much about a company screwing over another company and then paying them back once it's publicized. Both options come off to me as the kinds of minor transgressions that I assume happen regularly and aren't really the kind of thing people who aren't personally involved should care much about. For me, the big problems are the slipping quality of their test results and other issues caused by their release schedule and I wish GN didn't even bother bringing up the auction in the first place. Doing it for profit impacts my view differently from doing it for charity, but it's all just peanuts in the end.
Because Linus put sell in quotation marks, implying GN misdirected viewers on this point when in fact no such thing happened. GN literally said the item was "put up for auction at [LMG's] Extra Life auction event". Extra Life is a very well-known charity and the fact that you weren't aware of that is definitely not evidence of a lack of "proper journalistic practices" as claimed by Linus.
I dunno, I'd expect journalists to provide that information instead of assuming you're familiar with a charity which has a name that sounds like any ol gaming event. I don't think it was done out of malice but I do think it's your job as a journalist to recognize how that will sound to people unfamiliar with the charity and to inform them in turn. Leaving that ambiguity makes GN's argument's sound stronger to those uninformed and I think most writers are familiar with that effect. You aren't saying anything untrue or even really lying by omission, but you are making use of people's ignorance.
My point isn't that that was some major deception or a massive problem, just that if I was on the other end of that I would want it to be very clear what that auction was being run for, as it can impact if people think you're being malicious or if you're just incompetent. God knows LTT makes bigger mistakes regularly nowadays.
(and yes, I do think Linus pinpointed the issue about the block because it's the easiest to address without changing anything or addressing any real problems)
It's a perfectly valid assumption to make, considering Extra Life is the most well-known gaming related fundraising event (not a charity, that was a mistake on my part) and GN is a channel dedicated to PC gaming. Ultimately not every piece of content on the internet is going be be perfectly understandable for you. That is not necessarily an indication of a problem with the content itself.
But that is what Linus himself suggested. The very first point he makes is that this video is a case of poor "journalistic practices" and that it was not made in good faith. The crux of this argument is that GN misled viewers over the sale of the item, which is a complete fabrication on Linus's part.
He did say in the video it was being auctioned off for Extra-Life.
To me attempts to play up the charity angle in a mishap just comes off as emotionally manipulative, which is generally never going to be a good look for someone who isn't a fan willing to give the benefit of the doubt. It doesn't matter who it is from or what company.
He needs a PR team.
It doesn't matter if they auctioned it for profit or charity. They still do it for profit (that they do get), just not monetary. The value they gain by such an event is much higher than any price they could have auctioned it for.
Making it an excuse is an extremely bad take, not to mention that GN did say it was an auction, and Linus probably doesn't even know that because he didn't watch the video, he only read the comments.....