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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/44712264

These up-eds usually complain that photo radar would be fine if the radar worked properly. This one doesn't even do that. It just complains that speed limits aren't fair and now drivers have to change their behavior. jfc

It is true that drivers can avoid such tickets by sticking to the posted speed limits, but it is also true that drivers are hardly ever expected to strictly observe those limits.

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It’s like the generally accepted contract between drivers and police – just drive at a reasonable speed and you’ll be fine – has been broken.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-photo-radar-is-becoming-increasingly-common-that-doesnt-make-it-any/

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[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

People drive faster on some roads than others, why do you think this is?

[-] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

They drive a big ass truck other big ass vehicles and the higher up you are the slower you feel so the more they speed.

The term is velocitization

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The same person tends to drive different speeds on different roads and conditions. I dont think that pickup is going to take that a right hand turn in a road 6 inches wider than their truck doing 70.

[-] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

And why should I, someone who can read and respects speed limits the majority of the time, have to suffer narrow garbage roads? Why can't we treat people like adults? It's bonkers the arguments I see whenever there is an article about speed cameras.

Obey the speed limit. The end. Nothing else has to change in society. I know it's a big ask for all the grown ass humans who apparently never matured, but I'm sick of this stupidity.

Sincerely: someone who got a mailed speeding ticket for $50 2 days ago for going 50km in a 40km zone. Did I tear up and stomp my feet like a 3 year old? No! My adult brain stepped in and I went "ah shit, I'll have to pay more attention next time I'm in that area."

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

suffer narrow garbage roads

If youre suffering because you cant let your car drift 3 feet in either direction, thats a skill issue. Narrower roads also have the benefit of leaving more room for bike lanes and sidewalks/bike parking.

[-] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Weak personal attack.

Use your brain. You are advocating to make roads into obstacle courses in order to slow everyone down. By definition you are making that road a skill issue for half the population, assuming you build the road to the "average" drivers ability at the speed needed. Which also means half the population is gonna be capable of going faster than that, which it seems you would then believe they are just gonna speed anyways?

Why do that? What if instead there was a simple, effective, low cost way to communicate a "limit"? That way we could just put a sign up. And if things change, or we start seeing somewhere were that "limit" we have set is to slow or fast, we can just change the sign instead of redesigning the neighbourhood. We of course would have to create a system of enforcement....

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We've seen what enforcement looks like, its villages with 100 feet of 30 mph road in the middle of an 80 mph highway that finances their entire police department, shortened yellow lights to catch drivers with red-light cameras, and red light cameras not caring about dead-red laws for motorbikes.

Laws that enforce themselves are not subject to such exploitation.

But also curvier roads are just more aestically pleasing and pleasant to drive/ride on.

[-] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Citations needed. And don't start talking about red light cameras, I am discussing speed cameras. I don't like red light cameras for all your reasons listed.

I too love winding highway roads. They never seem to be where these cameras are.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Try driving in Florida or western New York sometime.

Here's one town that got slapped for going too far: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/02/florida-speed-trap-town-disbands-police-force

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