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[–] cyanocobalamin@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TNG also failed to flesh out the details of how their economy worked.

It is very easy to say "everyone is just happy and behaves well".

[–] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm willing to believe that for the most part, the world Star Trek inhabits is postscarcity - the widespread replicator technology leads me to believe that with easy access to energy and organic material, everyone can be fed and clothed with a minimum of expenditure, and with access to FTL travel and terraforming tools, land scarcity is no longer an issue either.

The economy is just a tool for the distribution of goods, services and land; it becomes unnecessary if everything necessary to sustain life (and probably quite a few luxuries and leisures) is readily available as it's needed.

[–] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't remember what series it is, but one of the newer series has a scene where someone is asking why the federation won't give them replicator tech. And the federation dude basically lays out how replicator tech before society is ready leads to oppression not liberation. That humanity only got replicator tech after they already came together and threw off the old ways. Replicator tech didn't lead to socialism for them. Socialism lead to replicator tech.

[–] Zalack@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this was an Orville episode, wasn't it?

[–] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao yeah it was don't know why I was thinking it was trek.

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Because Orville is Trek

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While the technology of star trek definitely plays a role in terms of it being anti capitalist, it's not just the tech. If today somebody invented a replicator, it wouldn't be a full decade before its use would be locked behind a dozen different tiered paywalls on top of the instalation cost, and then eventually it going through enshitification.

The societal values and culture in star trek values life, far, far above weath and profit to the point that such concepts are basically alien. And that has to be the first step for post scarcity tech to actually be used for the purpose of post scarcity.