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[-] themaninblack@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I thought this was mainly because they intercepted the same message which was sent twice

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 42 points 10 months ago

It's slightly "way more complicated". They occasionally forgot to update the key settings between messages, resent identical messages with different keys or encryption systems, or just chose easy to guess keys.

There was also a defect in enigma where no letters could be encoded as themselves. This meant that you could use knowledge of what was likely in a message at a certain location to rule out keys, since any letters in common disqualified the guess.

[-] themaninblack@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

That’s a brilliant description, thank you

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I believe that was Lorenz, not enigma. The higher level code. Basically Hitler and his generals only.

An operator missed a letter in a message. He then reset the machine and re-encrypted it. 2 almost identical messages like that were enough to figure out how the encryption operated. They didn't see a physical Lorenz machine till after the war.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Read that the guy cracking it had like a mental breakdown because it was so complicated.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The sheer pressure. It should be a crack too small to prise open. However, if you do, all of Hitler's personal messages are up for the reading.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

With a slight error somewhere in the middle of the second one. Or so I remember.

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