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[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They thought that Pearl Harbor wouldn't start a war.

What did they think they were going to accomplish, then?

[–] NotACIAPlant@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That it would force USA to negotiations about the oil embargo

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If true, that was incredibly dumb of them

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Had they managed to sink the entire fleet at port, had the carriers not been put on maneuvers, etc … it might have worked some.

“We just destroyed your entire fleet, if you just turn the oil back on we won’t attack further”

Common bully tactic.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Had they managed to sink the entire fleet at port,

see this is what I'm talking about: you can't. japan and germany together couldn't pull it off because our fleets were spread up and down the east and west coasts and the gulf.

the literally did not have the capability to attack anything further than hawaii.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm curious how a WWII where the entire Pacific fleet was docked in Pearl Harbor when attacked would have turned out.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In hindsight probably not terribly different, just woulda taken longer

The logistics and manufacturing capability of the USA far outpaced all the other nations at that time.

Midway is a good example of how outclassed Japan was from the outset.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

yep. plus prox fuses and radar guided naval artillery and eventually nukes...