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Yes, it is and people are assholes.
Yes, pit bull bites are more dangerous. No, that doesn't mean they should all be euthanized. They need proper training and that's it.
You're missing the blindingly obvious solution that should be taken: spay and neuter them so that no new ones are bred.
Unfortunately there is a feedback loop somewhere.
Pitbulls have a reputation for being dangerous tough guy dogs, so "tough guys" get pitbulls and proceed to not treat them well, this give pitbulls the reputation of being dangerous tough guy dogs.
I live in Copenhagen, however, and I've seen some very nicely treated pitbulls, even one that was part of a family. They can be so gentle.
So can guns.
Guns don't get old and have a bad day killing their owner. Pitbulls do unfortunately. I've seen good ones and bad ones but when they are hurting or just grumpy old farts they can go off. The difference between a shitzu and and pitbull doing that is the pitbull is powerful and the shitzu is annoying.
"heres anecdotal evidence to support my worldview"
Counterpoint, hipoints
Guns are weapons. Not lifeforms.
Hej fra København og jeg tror du har ret
Now hypothetically, if every breed except Chihuahuas was banned, and those tough guys were forced to buy those and not train them.
Do you think there would be more, less or equal amount of dog mauling?
Less. Chihuahuas can be aggressive, bitey little shits without proper training. Most people I've seen with Chihuahuas don't train them. It's just a small little dog, what harm can it do?
It doesn't matter about the mauling. What is more likely to kill you? A pitbull or a Chihuahua. If a Chihuahua tried to maul an average healthy adult, the healthy adult could probably fight it off quite quickly with minimal small bite injuries. You can't say the same about a pitbull.
Great, so you agree breed is a variable that shouldn't be underestimated.
https://eu.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2016/08/04/pitbull-kills-owners-girlfriend-sheriff-says/15719416007/
Pitbulls are a breed designed to kill.
You can have a Border Collie and it will be shepherding sheep on a screen, or dust motes on the floor, because it's in their DNA.
Killing and aggression are in the DNA of Pitbulls.
Stop being weird.
This is it, full stop. Dogs are individuals and should be treated as such.
I helped raise and home two litters of Staffordshire pups, we kept a rigorous list of the owners that we interviewed and checked the homes once a year to monitor the dogs progression. We made the owners sign a contract stating that if the living standards weren't up to snuff, we could reclaim the dogs. I worked with a fellow who raised Staffies for 30 years. In two litters, we had around a dozen well trained, friendly huggable porkchops. Two litters that had no recorded bites past a few months old (puppys nibble but can be trained), and showed no aggression with other animals. All those pups lived to old age, and passed in happy homes. I've also met too many pitbulls that were beyond any help i had to offer. Damaged dogs damaged by poor parenting.
I know my story is anecdotal, and i don't expect to change minds here, but i cant stand the outrage against such lovable dorks when something like the chihuahua exists.
Dogs are animals, and no amount of training can make it certain they will not attack, because, as you say, they are individuals. Therefore a well-trained Pitbull remains more dangerous than a well-trained [insert literally any other dog breed here].
I absolutely love dogs, including Pitbulls. I despair at what humans have done with selective breeding, by giving Pugs a lifetime of health problems, Pitbulls a greater chance of being euthanised, greyhounds a brain the size of a pea etc., etc. The right thing to do is to vote with our feet and stop the demand for breeds that shouldn't exist. The real villains here are the people creating pure bred pits for profit.
And the people who pay those breeders for these types of dogs are part of the problem.
Dogs aren't individuals. They're animals. You don't need a pitbull. There are plenty of other beautiful breeds like Retrievers/Laboradors or Border collies, etc.
With pitbulls you have to train them specifically not to fight to lower the chances. They shouldn't be available to own to the general public.
Humans are also animals. Part of the animalia kingdom, like everything else of flesh and bone.
Animals may not be sapient (being capable of human level generalist brain processing), but they're absolutely individuals with individual personalities.
You'd know this of you've lived with a few cats, or dogs, or worked on an animal farm for any length of time.
Yes, and humans also get judged based on their own actions.
You aren't going to lock up the parents of a serial killer because they didn't train them well enough.
Dogs are individuals as well. Some still show their wild instinct even when trained well enough. Or are you saying dogs can't have a personality?
Well, that depends on whether or not the parents were abusive, now doesn't it?
Not sure what country you're from, but abusive parents tend to get locked up.