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Europeans translating Al-Khwarizmi and other Arabic geniuses and putting their name on it.
Al-Khwarizmi himself stood on the shoulders of giants like Aryabhata and Brahmagupta, who came up with the nine point decimal system and the numerical zero which is foundational to all modern mathematics, physics, science and technology.
Human history truly is remarkable. Leonardo Fibonacci's Liber Abaci refers to modus Indorum or "the method of the Indians" but does not directly cite al‑Khwarizmi’s or Abu Kamil, themselves giants in the development of Al-Jabr (Algebra).
He does however acknowledge in the foreword of the text that he is a translator and disseminator of knowledge already used elsewhere in the world.
~~When you're done jerking off your ethnosupremacism~~ you can read about "nulla", N and the cultural exchange that led to it. For as long as there was human travel there was cultural exchange. For as long as there was invention, there was theft. Considering the epochs you cited and the social organization of the time, the idea some of those concepts were co-opted from less endowed contemporaneous philosophers without attribution is non null.
~~Your post has same spiritual energy as a wehraboo.~~
I feel that your anger at the strawman you've created is not a meaningful contribution to this discourse.
The decimal system likely originated in China and predates indo-arabic and european use by a few centuries.
China did have a decimal system, just not one that included zero, nor is it the one we use today. Many cultures used zero as a placeholder before the Indian numeral system was developed. Just not as an actual value that numerical operations could be performed on (which is crucial to almost everything you see around you in some way).
My original post was not in anyway meant to convey cultural superiority. I am fascinated by how spirituality can impact mathematical and scientific development. I am well aware that many world religions have attempted to lay claim to scientific truth retroactively through their literature.
Gotta love ppl who write something stupid and then edit it to put strikethrough, so they can pretend like they aren't saying it no more while still saying it.
Noted, next time I'll do a Trump and pretend I never said it to avoid owning up to my mistake. Gotcha. Thank you for your input, it really furthered the discussion.